If the use is for an English Wikipedia template, shouldn't additions be required there?

No samples for uses at Wikidata have been provided.

According to people here the only way to solve this issue is to add it to MediaWiki and it cannot be done on the English Wikipedia.

An example of use on Wikidata, we cannot use the "native label" using the apc code on the Levantine Arabic item: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56593

It seems the request is unrelated to Wikidata. Maybe you want to edit the description to make this clear.

Merely adding "native label" on the language item itself isn't considered sufficient to create the code for Wikidata (see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Monolingual_text_languages#Requirements_for_a_new_language_code ).

OK, I thought the underlying issue for the lack of support for ajp in the citation template and on Wikidata was the same.

If it's not, then it means I need to create a new ticket for Wikidata?

In any case, this issue (the lack of support of ajp in citation templates) still stands.

Depending on how it's solved for the template, it might do it for Wikidata as well.

There is a simplified way to define it for monolingual text in Wikidata, but this generally requires to provide samples for how it's to be used.

OK, I see, thanks.

So regarding samples for how it's to be used:

• There's an ongoing project (which was slowed down by font & directionality issues...) to create an ajp Wikipedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ajp/Main_Page So these pages will need ajp entries on Wikidata if the ajp Wikipedia is one day approved
• Languages such as French ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q150 ) have properties such as "has tense" and "has grammatical person" with grammatical examples. I'd like to add similar fields on the "Levantine Arabic" entry (and subdialects such as Damascene Arabic, Aleppo Arabic, etc.), based on the references cited on Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levantine_Arabic#Grammar ).
• The number of South Levantine Arabic (ajp) lemmas on the English Wiktionary ( https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:South_Levantine_Arabic_lemmas ) is growing, and in particular terms with audio links have been recently added ( https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:South_Levantine_Arabic_terms_with_audio_links ), these audio files could be added to Wikidata ("pronunciation audio" property), especially for the local pronunciation in Levantine Arabic of city names such as Jerusalem ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1218 ) which differs from the Standard Arabic pronunciation, which is the only one currently provided.

Please let me know if this is enough. There may also be other use cases I don't have in mind right now.

Actually it seems that audio entries can be added for South Levantine Arabic (or any other dialect, for instance "Palestinian Arabic") even though ajp and apc codes are not recognized.

ajp has been deprecated since the task was created and merged into apc.

apc is supported on translatewiki. If anyone translates enough of it, it will be fully supported in MediaWiki.

If you want support in Wikidata or Lexemes before that, it's probably covered by task T332264, and this task can probably be merged into that one.

In T290657#8715282, @Amire80 wrote:

ajp has been deprecated since the task was created and merged into apc.

apc is supported on translatewiki. If anyone translates enough of it, it will be fully supported in MediaWiki.

If you want support in Wikidata or Lexemes before that, it's probably covered by task T332264, and this task can probably be merged into that one.

This task has nothing to do with Wikidata. The description says they want it to work in a template on the English Wikipedia. It looks like the template/module is fetching language names from MediaWiki, which fails because MediaWiki doesn't have names for most languages. I'm not sure why it's doing that instead of using something more suited to the task like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:ISO_639_name, but if we want MediaWiki to know the English name, it would have to be added to LocalNamesEn.php in the CLDR extension (even if someone translates enough of it for it to be added as an interface language).

Change 955921 had a related patch set uploaded (by TheDJ; author: TheDJ):

[mediawiki/core@master] Add apc autonym to MediaWiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/955921

Made this patch because of T345870, but might require additional changes to cldr extension and friends ?

Change 955921 abandoned by TheDJ:

[mediawiki/core@master] Add apc autonym to MediaWiki

Reason:

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/955921

In T290657#9152132, @TheDJ wrote:

Made this patch because of T345870, but might require additional changes to cldr extension and friends ?

Hi,
I don't understand, the latest CLDR release includes apc: https://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-43

What else needs to be done?

In T290657#9219219, @A455bcd9 wrote:

What else needs to be done?

I guess Debian needs to ship an updated package which the Wikimedia servers which run Debian would use: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/unicode-cldr-core

In T290657#9219270, @Aklapper wrote:

In T290657#9219219, @A455bcd9 wrote:

What else needs to be done?

I guess Debian needs to ship an updated package which the Wikimedia servers which run Debian would use: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/unicode-cldr-core

Thanks. I asked them when it'll be packaged.

In T290657#9219270, @Aklapper wrote:

I guess Debian needs to ship an updated package which the Wikimedia servers which run Debian would use: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/unicode-cldr-core

That's not relevant for English names. English names for languages come from the CLDR extension. The data in the extension is independent of the operating system, it's updated by downloading the version of CLDR you want to use and running rebuild.php.

In T290657#9219219, @A455bcd9 wrote:

I don't understand, the latest CLDR release includes apc: https://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-43

What else needs to be done?

CLDR does not have an English name for apc though - https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/blob/main/common/main/en.xml

Once they've added one, it will be included in the next release, and after the next release, the MediaWiki CLDR extension will need updating to the latest CLDR release. Until that happens, it could be temporarily added to LocalNamesEn.php in the CLDR extension.

In T290657#9316141, @Nikki wrote:

CLDR does not have an English name for apc though - https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/blob/main/common/main/en.xml

Thanks, just submitted a PR... https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/pull/3387

In T290657#9756467, @Raymond wrote:

First export for apc from translatewiki now with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/1025602

I think https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/955921 could be restored, couldn't it?

True, thanks for the reminder.

Change #955921 restored by Amire80:

[mediawiki/core@master] Add apc autonym to MediaWiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/955921

Change #1025712 had a related patch set uploaded (by Amire80; author: Amire80):

[mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLexeme@master] Remove local definitions for languages fon and apc

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1025712

Change #955921 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] Add apc autonym to MediaWiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/955921

Change #1025708 had a related patch set uploaded (by Abijeet Patro; author: Amire80):

[translatewiki@master] Remove apc, which was added to Names.php

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1025708

Change #1025708 merged by jenkins-bot:

[translatewiki@master] Remove apc, which was added to Names.php

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1025708

Change #1030898 had a related patch set uploaded (by Amire80; author: Amire80):

[mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector@master] Add search aliases for Levantine Arabic and Palembang

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1030898