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Close #wikimedia-devrel Freenode IRC channel and redirect it to #wikimedia-tech
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  1. #wikimedia-devrel Freenode IRC channel is not active anymore and we should redirect it, probably to #wikimedia-tech
  1. After that, we need to update any documentation on Wikimedia wikis where the channel is listed. Some possible venues to remove the channel from:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technical_Engagement
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMDSbot
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in/Participants
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy

In some cases we may want to link to https://wikimedia.zulipchat.com/
In some cases we may want to link to our team's talk page on mw.org.

Event Timeline

Aklapper renamed this task from Kill #wikimedia-devrel Freenode IRC channel to Kill #wikimedia-devrel Freenode IRC channel.Aug 22 2019, 2:44 PM
Aklapper added a project: wikimedia-irc-libera.

Now shall we redirect to #wikimedia-tech or noisy #wikimedia-dev? (Bikeshed! Bikeshed!)
(@charitwo might be able to help us with this; not pinging yet because need to find out where to redirect instead.)

No updates to wikibugs config needed, as not listed in https://github.com/wikimedia/labs-tools-wikibugs2/blob/master/gerrit-channels.yaml

Group thoughts: probably #wikimedia-tech, and update the team page to specify that "You can find us on IRC at [...] and you should ping (just type) these nicknames to get our attention if we're working at that time: andre__ srish_aka_tux srrodlund" (so that we don't need to alter the channel topic)

Also, here's a reminder that instructions for how to redirect a channel are at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Instructions#cite_ref-6

And here's a search for all the places that the current channel name is used.

Thanks for sharing the discussion that I unfortunately could not attend. Appreciated.

Now let me disagree with some aspects. :P

Group thoughts: probably #wikimedia-tech, and update the team page to specify that "You can find us on IRC at [...] and you should ping (just type) these nicknames to get our attention if we're working at that time: andre__ srish_aka_tux srrodlund" (so that we don't need to alter the channel topic)

  • I do not see a reason for listing explicit individual IRC nicknames. If individual subteam members use IRC then individuals are free to add their IRC nickname information to their user infobox on their wiki user pages. User pages of this subteam are already linked from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy#Team and it's good to keep information centralized in one place.
  • I would rephrase "You can find us on IRC [...]" to "Some of us can also be contacted in other ways (IRC, email, …). See the individual user pages of team members for contact information." I don't see a reason why someone would want to speak to the all members of the subteam on IRC at the same time (and I don't see a "unified timezone" launch in our annual planning to support that).

Right. Yup. Sorry, I didn't mean that exact phrasing, but was typing out quickly during the meeting. The intent was more... somehow provide the usernames that people can potentially ping, perhaps giving specific circumstances/specializations. E.g. "Ping andre__ for questions about [...]". -- However, your idea would work as well, just in a slightly more fragmented way. :-)

@Quiddity: Heh, alright :) In any case thanks for summarizing!

somehow provide the usernames that people can potentially ping, perhaps giving specific circumstances/specializations.

Right. @srishakatux, @srodlund, @Aklapper: Everyone should probably list their kind of skills / areas under https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy#Team ? (We probably don't need to go as deep as https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portal:Cloud_VPS/Admin/Skill_matrix does.)

Changed the "Team" section from gallery to table, made space to cover main focus areas of team members.

@srodlund, @srishakatux: Please feel free to add your main focus areas under https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy#Team . Please also check the Contact info on your personal wiki page, and potentially add our team page to your watchlist if threads are added on the talk/discussion page.

Aklapper added a subscriber: Bmueller.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy#Team looks good to me, thanks everyone!
@Bmueller: Would you like to also add yourself? Up to you. :)

Again, you're all encouraged to check the "Contact" info on your personal user pages (and potentially also list when/how to NOT contact you).
And you're all encouraged to add that page (and its Talk/Discussion page) to your watchlist, as the wiki page says that "You can contact the entire team [...] by adding a comment on the Discussion page of this very page".

Aklapper updated the task description. (Show Details)
Aklapper added a subscriber: charitwo.

@charitwo: Hi, wondering if you could help us with closing and redirecting this IRC channel? Or maybe you know who else to ask? Thanks in advance for any reply!

yes, hello.

apparently there is some confusion among the denizens of wikimedia. I double checked with freenode staff just to be sure but I have not been a group contact for a very long time now!

feel free to reach out to my bro @Az1568 and he can forward the channel himself with the wmfgc account

Thanks a lot (and sorry, I guess I should have checked https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Group_Contacts again)!

Aklapper renamed this task from Kill #wikimedia-devrel Freenode IRC channel to Close #wikimedia-devrel Freenode IRC channel and redirect it to #wikimedia-tech.Nov 20 2019, 11:34 PM

Thanks a lot for your help, Az1568! Confirming that trying to join the Freenode IRC channel #wikimedia-devrel redirects to #wikimedia-tech.

I've also updated a good bunch of wiki pages so we are done here. Yay, one channel less for fragmentation.