Exclude stubs from Special:Random
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Author: bugzilla.wikimedia

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It disappointing when Special:Random ends up showing a no-or-low-profile-information-page. Thus, stub pages (as defined e.g. by stub page size in Special:Preferences) should not be presented by Special:Random. This request is based on an idea by Johannes Rohr.


Version: 1.13.x
Severity: enhancement

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bzimport created this task.Via LegacyJun 6 2008, 9:24 PM
bzimport added a comment.Via ConduitJun 6 2008, 9:30 PM

bugzilla.wikimedia wrote:

An additional idea could be to exclude pages of specific categories, or at least one category, from being Special:Random targets, such as Category:Stub, Category:Disambiguation, Category:ToBeTranslated, or similar.

Tbleher added a comment.Via ConduitJun 7 2008, 8:44 AM

(In reply to comment #0)

It disappointing when Special:Random ends up showing a
no-or-low-profile-information-page. Thus, stub pages (as defined e.g. by stub
page size in Special:Preferences) should not be presented by Special:Random.

People use Special:Random for different purposes. For example, I sometimes use it to randomly browse through my wiki to see work-needing articles, so I very much want to see stub articles. I can see the value of your request for users, but for editors, I don't think it's so clear-cut.

bzimport added a comment.Via ConduitJun 7 2008, 3:00 PM

bugzilla.wikimedia wrote:

As an editor, I do the same kind of browsing, so I'd then set the stub-limit to something very small, or zero, in order to get to any non-redirect page. Unfortunately for readers, their stub limit defaults to zero, too, but that could imho be changed.

Tbleher added a comment.Via ConduitJun 7 2008, 6:06 PM

Ah, OK, so you propose a new user preference. I think that would work fine.

bzimport added a comment.Via ConduitJun 9 2008, 5:14 PM

jorohr wrote:

(In reply to comment #0)

This request is based on an idea by Johannes Rohr.

By all due respect, I never suggested this or anything similar. The only thing I would suggest is: Resist the temptation to inflate your article count by means of bot-generated year stubs, totally nonsensical [[:ksh:Saachjrupp:Tellefon Fürwaal (Dütschland)|area code articles]], orphaned disambigutions and so on. The [[:ksh:]] Wiki is currently in a deplorable state. The only remedy to that I can think of is: Delete all this pseudo content and write real articles, thereby increasing the likelihood of alt-x hitting real content.

bzimport added a comment.Via ConduitJun 10 2008, 9:54 AM

bugzilla.wikimedia wrote:

@ Johannes Rohr - this is not the place to voice your grievances against contents of wikis, you are not even an editor of. You are invited to join, and make better content.

It was you, who said, he did not want stub or disambiguation pages in [[Special:Random]]. I believe, I only picked up on that, but if you disagree, I take both blame and honour on myself. ;-)

bzimport added a comment.Via ConduitJun 10 2008, 11:02 AM

jorohr wrote:

(In reply to comment #6)

It was you, who said, he did not want stub or disambiguation pages in
[[Special:Random]].

This is a misunderstanding. I only cited my experience with [[Special:Random]] as it illustrates the poor state of khs.wp. And I do no believe that there can be a technical solution to what appears to be a social problem to me.

bzimport added a comment.Via ConduitJun 10 2008, 11:03 AM

jorohr wrote:

(In reply to comment #7)

This is a misunderstanding. I only cited my experience with [[Special:Random]]

That is to say: with [[ksh:Special:Random]], sorry for spamming.

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