Change redirect target of sep11.wikipedia.org
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	Pppery
	Jun 10 2024, 1:45 AM

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Currently sep11.wikipedia.org redirects to https://web.archive.org/web/20030315000000*/http://sep11.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Memoriam

at least that should be https://web.archive.org/web/20030413072718/http://sep11.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Memoriam to point to the content of the site rather than a list of snapshots.

It would also make more sense IMO to go further and point to the most recent snapshot of the site rather than a 2003 version. That appears to be https://web.archive.org/web/20090918092809/http://www.sep11memories.org/wiki/In_Memoriam (sep11memories.org was hijacked by spammers between 2009 and 2011)

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	redirects.dat: change funnel target for sep11.wikipedia.org to meta wiki	operations/puppet	production	+10 -1

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Pppery created this task.Jun 10 2024, 1:45 AM

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Pppery mentioned this in T367011: Remove iegreview.wikimedia.org from DNS.Jun 10 2024, 1:46 AM

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It would make sense to me to link to a specific version rather than a list of snapshots.

But I disagree that it should have a relation to www.sep11memories.org

As far as I know that domain name isn't operated by WMF and sep11.wikipedia.org should show what that wikipedia.org subdomain once was, not be redirected to something that only started to exist later and/or is hosted by a different entity.

From ~2007 to ~2011 sep11.wikipedia.org was a redirect to sep11memories.org. That's why I proposed that target.

Another possibility is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sep11wiki. On second thought that's probably better than any pointer to the Wayback Machine as it explains the context.

In T367014#9971812, @Pppery wrote:

On second thought that's probably better than any pointer to the Wayback Machine as it explains the context.

Agreed. Good idea. Having the explanation there is good. Links to Wayback Machine can be added to the wiki page as needed.

Change #1053400 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dzahn; author: Dzahn):

[operations/puppet@production] redirects.dat: change funnel target for sep11.wikipedia.org to meta wiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1053400

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Jul 11 2024, 12:20 AM

Change #1053400 merged by Alexandros Kosiaris:

[operations/puppet@production] redirects.dat: change funnel target for sep11.wikipedia.org to meta wiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1053400

Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Jul 26 2024, 9:31 AM

Thanks to @akosiaris for deploying this.

I expect this to be resolved except we are waiting for caches to expire. Maybe 24 hours and it should redirect to the new target.

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-07-26T18:52:19Z] <mutante> [deploy1002:~] $ echo 'https://sep11.wikipedia.org' | mwscript purgeList.php --wiki=aawiki - T367014

curl -q https://sep11.wikipedia.org | grep -i moved
...
<title>301 Moved Permanently</title>
<h1>Moved Permanently</h1>
<p>The document has moved <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sep11wiki">here</a>.</p>

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