Agenda
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- Location: #wikimedia-office IRC channel
- [Meeting type](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Good_meetings#Taxonomy): TBD
- Time: Weekly2016-03-16, Wednesday 21:00 UTC (2pm [PDT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America/Los_Angeles), 23:00 [CEST](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Summer_TimeAmerica/Los_Angeles))
- This time is the standard as of this writing (in March 2016), but may change as we make adjustments to accommodate daylight savings/summer time adjustments for the participants. By default, we intend for this meeting to be held Wednesday 2pm [San Francisco time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America/Los_Angeles).
- Topic:s:
- Spend a small portion on RFC triage as we did in E146
- {T66214}
- TBD (for discussion in comments)- {T78639}
- {T101686}
- {T114419}
Meeting summary
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E148 (robla, 21:00:53)
* LINK: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214 (gwicke, 21:01:56)
* topic discussed: where we add extra parameters (page, time,
language, etc) is the format sufficiently clearly specified?
(robla, 21:04:13)
* to discuss in future: implementation details for small/large
installs (backlog) (brion, 21:05:47)
------------------ * avoiding cache fragmentation will require normalization of
parameters (deterministic serialization of hashmap or other
ordering) (brion, 21:19:50)
* daniel suggests having the failed-validation case be a redirect,
gwicke warns they're expensive (brion, 21:20:24)
* normalizing parameters within varnish would be painful (brion,
21:20:43)
* T78639: How to address the long tail of low priority tasks in active
projects (robla, 21:21:36)
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T78639: How to address the long tail of low priority tasks in active
projects (robla, 21:22:16)
* LINK: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101686 (DanielK_WMDE__,
21:22:48)
* LINK: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114419 (DanielK_WMDE__,
21:22:57)
* question discussed: what is the scope of this RFC? (robla,
21:28:08)
* LINK: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MZMcBride/Bugs#Philosophy
(legoktm, 21:34:58)
* discussed role of +1. question now discussed: how will this work in
Differential? (robla, 21:46:48)
* should we discuss workflow for gerrit, for differential, or detach
the discussion from the tools (DanielK_WMDE__, 21:47:47)
* LINK:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/a_bad_workman_always_blames_his_tools
(gwicke, 21:51:04)
* IDEA: <gwicke> tools won't give us more trust in merging complex
patches without good test coverage, or make decisions on "not sure
if this is a good direction" patches (robla, 21:55:11)
Meeting ended at 22:00:02 UTC.
People present (lines said)
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* gwicke (53)
* DanielK_WMDE__ (47)
* brion (45)
* robla (28)
* bd808 (19)
* andre__ (17)
* greg-g (16)
* legoktm (10)
* SMalyshev (7)
* stashbot (6)
* Purodha (4)
* Scott_WUaS (4)
* wm-labs-meetbot` (3)
* jzerebecki (2)
* ebernhardson (2)
* chasemp (1)
IRC log
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