I was just looking at en-ca, and noticed there are many messages identical to en (I've started deleting some on translatewiki).
Similar can be said for en-gb
I'm sure similar can be said for other languages...
The "translations" are unnecessary, and should be removed
There'd be some use for doing this all the way down the translation chains, potentially
<?php $en = (array)json_decode( file_get_contents( 'en.json' ) ); $en_gb = (array)json_decode( file_get_contents( 'en-gb.json' ) ); $messagesIdentical = []; foreach ( $en_gb as $k => $v ) { if ( isset( $en[$k] ) && $en[$k] === $v ) { $messagesIdentical[] = $k; } } echo count( $messagesIdentical ) . " identical messages."; echo "\n"; echo implode( "\n", $messagesIdentical ); echo "\n";
There's too many in en-gb to fix manually. There's not so many in en-ca (so I have fixed those)
en-gb
399 identical messages. tog-underline tog-hideminor tog-hidepatrolled tog-newpageshidepatrolled tog-extendwatchlist tog-usenewrc tog-numberheadings tog-showtoolbar tog-editondblclick tog-editsectiononrightclick tog-watchcreations tog-watchdefault tog-watchmoves tog-watchdeletion tog-watchuploads tog-watchrollback tog-minordefault tog-previewontop tog-previewonfirst tog-enotifminoredits tog-enotifrevealaddr tog-shownumberswatching tog-oldsig tog-fancysig tog-uselivepreview tog-forceeditsummary tog-watchlisthideown tog-watchlisthidebots tog-watchlisthideminor tog-watchlisthideliu tog-watchlisthideanons tog-watchlisthidepatrolled tog-ccmeonemails tog-diffonly tog-showhiddencats tog-norollbackdiff tog-useeditwarning tog-prefershttps underline-always underline-never underline-default editfont-style editfont-default editfont-monospace editfont-sansserif editfont-serif sunday monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday saturday sun mon tue wed thu fri sat january february march april may_long june july august september october november december january-gen february-gen march-gen april-gen may-gen june-gen july-gen august-gen september-gen october-gen november-gen december-gen jan feb mar apr may jun jul aug sep oct nov dec january-date february-date march-date april-date may-date june-date july-date august-date september-date october-date november-date december-date pagecategories subcategories category-empty hidden-categories hidden-category-category category-subcat-count category-subcat-count-limited category-article-count category-article-count-limited category-file-count category-file-count-limited listingcontinuesabbrev index-category noindex-category broken-file-category about article newwindow cancel moredotdotdot mypage mytalk anontalk navigation and qbfind qbbrowse qbedit qbpageoptions qbmyoptions faq faqpage actions namespaces variants navigation-heading errorpagetitle returnto tagline help search searchbutton go searcharticle history history_short updatedmarker printableversion permalink print view view-foreign edit edit-local create create-local editthispage create-this-page delete deletethispage undeletethispage undelete_short viewdeleted_short protect protect_change protectthispage unprotect unprotectthispage newpage talkpage talkpagelinktext specialpage personaltools articlepage talk views toolbox userpage projectpage imagepage mediawikipage templatepage viewhelppage categorypage viewtalkpage otherlanguages redirectedfrom redirectpagesub redirectto lastmodifiedat viewcount protectedpage jumpto jumptonavigation jumptosearch view-pool-error generic-pool-error pool-timeout pool-queuefull pool-errorunknown pool-servererror poolcounter-usage-error aboutsite aboutpage copyright copyrightpage currentevents currentevents-url disclaimers disclaimerpage edithelp helppage-top-gethelp mainpage mainpage-description policy-url portal portal-url privacy privacypage badaccess badaccess-group0 badaccess-groups versionrequired versionrequiredtext ok youhavenewmessages youhavenewmessagesfromusers youhavenewmessagesmanyusers newmessageslinkplural newmessagesdifflinkplural youhavenewmessagesmulti editsection editold viewsourceold editlink viewsourcelink editsectionhint toc showtoc hidetoc collapsible-collapse collapsible-expand confirmable-confirm confirmable-yes confirmable-no thisisdeleted viewdeleted restorelink feedlinks feed-invalid feed-unavailable site-rss-feed site-atom-feed red-link-title sort-descending sort-ascending nstab-main nstab-user nstab-media nstab-special nstab-project nstab-image nstab-mediawiki nstab-template nstab-help nstab-category mainpage-nstab nosuchaction nosuchactiontext nosuchspecialpage nospecialpagetext error protectedinterface cascadeprotected pt-login pt-createaccount savearticle loginreqlink noarticletext template-protected revisionasof previousrevision cur lineno editundo searchresults searchresults-title prevn nextn shown-title searchprofile-articles searchprofile-images searchprofile-everything searchprofile-advanced searchprofile-articles-tooltip searchprofile-images-tooltip searchprofile-everything-tooltip searchprofile-advanced-tooltip search-result-size prefs-i18n right-writeapi newuserlogpage recentchanges recentchanges-legend recentchanges-label-newpage recentchanges-label-minor recentchanges-label-bot rclistfrom rcshowhidebots rcshowhideliu rclinks diff hist minoreditletter newpageletter boteditletter rc-change-size-new recentchangeslinked-toolbox recentchangeslinked-summary upload file-anchor-link filehist filehist-help filehist-current filehist-datetime filehist-thumb filehist-thumbtext filehist-user filehist-dimensions filehist-comment imagelinks linkstoimage sharedupload-desc-here randompage nbytes newpages allpagessubmit rollbacklink namespace invert tooltip-invert namespace_association tooltip-namespace_association blanknamespace whatlinkshere blocklink contribslink databaselocked movecategorypage-warning allmessagestext thumbnail-more tooltip-pt-login tooltip-pt-createaccount tooltip-ca-talk tooltip-ca-edit tooltip-ca-addsection tooltip-ca-history tooltip-ca-watch tooltip-search tooltip-search-go tooltip-p-logo tooltip-n-mainpage tooltip-n-mainpage-description tooltip-n-currentevents tooltip-n-recentchanges tooltip-n-randompage tooltip-n-help tooltip-t-whatlinkshere tooltip-t-recentchangeslinked tooltip-feed-atom tooltip-t-upload tooltip-t-specialpages tooltip-t-print tooltip-t-permalink tooltip-ca-nstab-main tooltip-ca-nstab-special tooltip-ca-nstab-image tooltip-ca-nstab-category pageinfo-toolboxlink file-info-size show-big-image show-big-image-preview show-big-image-other show-big-image-size metadata namespacesall specialpages tag-filter tag-list-wrapper logentry-newusers-create searchsuggest-search
en-ca (which I've fixed already)
6 identical messages. talk aboutsite mainpage editsection editsectionhint red-link-title
At least for en-gb, am I ok to deleteBatch these on the translatewiki server as my user account?
A quick look at https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=mediawiki&language=en-ca&filter=translated&action=translate suggests a lot more en-ca have been translated, but not exported in the last 3 years... T162009#3149673
So a load more would actually need deleting
Should be ok for MediaWiki. Please use the -r option to link some page (like this report) where translators can find more information about the reason.
I should probably turn this into a proper maintenance script (probably living in Translate?) that follows fallback chains
We could do two things:
This probably doesn't "need to be done" since if they are "unneeded" they aren't hurting anything, but defining unneeded may be hard - "unused" could be possibly slightly useful (i.e. local sub-language variants of messages that have no base language message anymore) . And simply being identical (e.g. X/en == X/en-ca) is not a good enough test. Because of problems called out in tasks such as T229992 these may be necessary in this scenario: