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I'm getting this again in Tech News, as of ~10 minutes ago.
This is still broken. Screenshots that might be helpful at F41777576 and F41778301 (I'm glad I checked, before signing out of everything for my wiki-break! Which I will now do.)
Similar problem with T4777: Provide a recursive subst: function in the PST – {{substall:foo}} but it fails with Undefined offset: 3 (instead of 5)
Thank you!
Re: the MediaWiki.org pages, those are the basic documentation pages for the Extension itself, which are needed because the extension can be reused in other MediaWiki installations, and thus needs somewhere generic to point to for all the default inline/UI "Help" links.
I think there are at least 2 separate aspects being discussed/confused here, and I think at least one of the recently merged tasks was not a duplicate.
The previous solution seems to have partially broken?
E.g. For plaintext infobox content of date = 1926 it is now displaying Created: 1926date QS:P571,+1926-00-00T00:00:00Z/9
Example URLs:
Screenshot of both:
Re: Tech News/user-notice - What wording would you suggest as the content, and When should it be included? Thanks!
My best guess is something like this. If you can simplify/improve this, or fix any errors and then confirm it is good, that'd be appreciated:
Future changes
- In the future [??], it will not be possible to login to Wikimedia wikis from some specific old versions of the Chrome browser (versions 51–66, released between 2016–2018). Additionally, users of iOS 12, or Safari on Mac OS 10.14, may need to login to each wiki separately.
Re: Tech News/User-notice - What wording would you suggest as the content? My best guess is something like:
Recent changes
- Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces. This will help with some page size limit issues.
Please confirm or improve that. Thanks!
Removing User-notice as that is only for Tech News, and we try to avoid global announcements for things that only affect a handful of wikis. Please contact the those wikis directly, instead. Thanks!
Re: Tech News - What wording and link(s) would you suggest as the content? I'd guess something like this, but perhaps there are better or more accurate ways to phrase it? Please propose wording, or add directly to the next issue (frozen for translations in ~26 hours).
Recent changes
- The way that Random pages are selected has been updated. This will reduce the problem of some pages having a lower chance of appearing.
Links-wise, it could just link to this task, but if so, perhaps we could update the Task Description with a summary of what was changed?
Re: Tech News - What wording and link(s) would you suggest as the content?
Please suggest 1-3 sentences with 1-2 links (perhaps a documentation page with a screenshot?), or add directly within the next ~27 hours (after which the edition will be frozen for translation). Thanks!
@matmarex Aha! After comparing my prefs between 2 accounts, this was a "Use Parsoid by default" preference issue. Please can you pass that along to the appropriate folks, if needed? (And sorry for the noise in this task!)
I have a personal tool that I think is also breaking from this (and which might point to other potential gadget/userscript breakages?). I use this userJS via the browser-extension violentmonkey to add mouseover anchor links for each heading (until T18691: RFC: Section header "share" link gets resolved -- and see that task for related gadgets/scripts). I wonder if it's easy to either change the default output so that it works again for my existing code (and potentially the other scripts), or if someone could tell me what to change to fix my code? (Low-urgency if it just affects me though!). Thanks, and hope that helps!
Specific suggestions for how to word it, and what to link to, would be greatly appreciated!
Re: Tech News - it looks like this is ready to be announced in next week's edition.
What wording and links (documentation?) would you suggest as the content? My best-guess is something like:
Changes later this week
- It will be possible to redirect pages in the Module namespace, and moving a Module will leave a redirect behind.
But I'm uncertain about the wording, and can't see any existing documentation about it on mediawiki-wiki. Thanks!
Hi. For the User-notice (Tech News entry), is this ready to announce yet? (I'm uncertain whether it's Beta Cluster only for now, or going live to production wikis soon).
Thanks!
Related user-frustration thread at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Add_an_%22are_you_sure?%22_pop-up_when_you_log_out -- (permalink)
@matmarex Will this be live and visible to users the week after next week (1.42.0-wmf.9), or will it still be behind a feature flag (per T13555#8422033 above) for a few more weeks?
Or in other words, when should it be included in Tech News, and what should the entry say and link to? Thanks!
Re: Tech News - What wording would you suggest as the content, and when should it be included? (given that there's no deployment train next week). Thanks!
@ppelberg It looks like this also requires users to have opted-in to the Beta Feature of "Discussion tools" (or all Beta Features) in order to see that preference. Therefore I've added that nuance, and the rest of your suggestion, into https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2023/49 - please edit boldly for the next ~18 hours, after which the first translations will start to arrive
@Nardog As it didn't make it in the last Tech News edition (diff of removal), should it go into the next issue? (I.e. IIUC, the only relevant patch was merged on the 16th, and should be getting deployed as part of the train this week (MediaWiki 1.42/wmf.7), but I might be missing/misunderstanding something?) Thanks!
Those were the newest wikis created (~3 weeks ago) so this is possibly expected?
Cf. The top entries at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/operations/mediawiki-config/+log/master/dblists%2Fall.dblist
A bug-report in Telegram provided this example, which I believe is part of this task. Adding here in case live-examples are useful:
Screenshot from https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Z11938?uselang=pnb versus https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Z11938?uselang=en
where the text should display as +e Python but shows as e Python+ in RTL.
@Jdforrester-WMF re: User-notice - is this task already covered by the entry in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2023/48 about async/await (which links to T343499) or is it a separate entry (if so, what should it say?)? Thanks!
There's some feedback at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Xtiir7e6iubumeqq asking for the CSS needed to replace the new styling with something less prominent.
Do you (anyone) have any suggested wording for the Tech News entry? I'd guess at something like this, but perhaps there is more detail to add?
Recent changes
- The {{DEFAULTSORT:...}} system is working again in VisualEditor, after the previously mentioned problems. (1) (2) (3)
Proposed Tech News draft, please edit or approve, and (optionally) add any additional link that belongs within the text:
Changes this week
- The skin Vector-2022 will have some CSS changes to enable future modifications. In the short-term this will result in some styling changes for: buttons on dropdown menus, backgrounds, and sidebar widths. These changes were added to a small set of wikis last week. If no issues are found, the changes will proceed to all wikis this week. (1)
Just to confirm for Tech News purposes: Is this releasing next week even though there isn't a deployment train next week (20 Nov)? Or does the Tech News entry need to be moved to the following week (27 Nov) instead?
(The current entry says "Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" [...]" (meaning 22 Nov). Thanks!
This issue might have re-appeared? There's a fresh report at Meta_talk:Babylon about edits not being correctly autopatrolled. (I'm not sure if this needs a fresh task, or if it's a re-occurrence of the underlying issue here.)
Yup, seems to be resolved, somehow. Closing as no longer valid. Thanks!
@ovasileva Thanks for the notes! How can we best squeeze that content down to just 1 bullet-point? (~3 sentences, 1-2 links)
Also, from this task's description and comments, I cannot tell whether the changes next week will affect just the four named Wikipedias (in which case a Tech News entry might not be efficient, and direct posts at those 4 wikis would suffice), or if any changes will be visible elsewhere?