Page MenuHomePhabricator

CLDR: Modify language name translations for "crh-ro"
Open, Needs TriagePublic

Description

Modify English and German language name translations of the code crh-ro (BCP 47 crh-Latn-RO ).

  • MediaWiki internal language code: crh-ro
  • BCP 47 language code: crh-Latn-RO
  • English
    • Current translation: Crimean Tatar (Romania)
    • Proposed new translation: Dobrujan Tatar
  • German
    • Current translation: Krimtatarisch (Rumänisch)
    • Proposed new translation: Dobrudschatatarisch

Event Timeline

Hi @TayfunEt, thanks for taking the time to report this. Please provide steps to reproduce where to see a "label". It's unclear to me what is requested here and where in the code.

For example in the language Portal in translatewiki.net.

@TayfunEt: Please provide a full link to make sure that everyone is talking about the same thing - thanks!

If this is about https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:ActiveLanguages (?), then all languages are shown in their own language? Edit: Oh, you mean at the bottom?

From the code of MediaWiki:

./includes/languages/data/Names.php:		'crh-ro' => 'tatarşa', # Crimean Tatar (Romania)
./languages/messages/MessagesCrh_ro.php:/** Crimean Tatar (Romania) (tatarşa)

From the code of MediaWiki:

./includes/languages/data/Names.php:		'crh-ro' => 'tatarşa', # Crimean Tatar (Romania)
./languages/messages/MessagesCrh_ro.php:/** Crimean Tatar (Romania) (tatarşa)

And I would recommend to use "Dobrujan Tatar"

Thanks. Could you provide any resources/references for your proposal and if that term is commonly used in literature etc?

This is commonly used, also in Wikipedia. Here is a source https://www.academia.edu/12104352/Romanian_Tatar_language_communication_in_the_multicultural_space (page 11), here are two terms used, Romanian Tatar and Dobrujan Tatar. But there are actually many sources were you can see "Dobrujan Tatar" or similar names.

TayfunEt renamed this task from Add English label to Add English label to "crh-ro".Sep 20 2023, 8:23 PM

Please do not add unrelated project tags - thanks!

TayfunEt renamed this task from Add English label to "crh-ro" to Change the label of "crh-ro".Oct 14 2023, 9:34 AM
TayfunEt updated the task description. (Show Details)
Winston_Sung renamed this task from Change the label of "crh-ro" to CLDR: Add language name translations for "crh-ro".Oct 14 2023, 9:49 AM
Winston_Sung renamed this task from CLDR: Add language name translations for "crh-ro" to CLDR: Modify language name translations for "crh-ro".
Winston_Sung updated the task description. (Show Details)
Winston_Sung updated the task description. (Show Details)
Winston_Sung updated the task description. (Show Details)
TayfunEt updated the task description. (Show Details)

We have now two requests, to add names about crh-ro. But I do not have knowledge to do this in gerrit...

@Winston_Sung @Aklapper is it wise to update CLDR data locally? Doesn't it get overwritten when the next CLDR version arrives?

@Winston_Sung @Aklapper is it wise to update CLDR data locally? Doesn't it get overwritten when the next CLDR version arrives?

Updates for extensions/cldr/LocalNames/LocalNamesXx.php are safe. Only CldrNamesXx.php will be overwritten.

Updates for extensions/cldr/LocalNames/LocalNamesXx.php are safe. Only CldrNamesXx.php will be overwritten.

This.

@Aklapper I can't do it. So, I propose that someone who has knowledge in this does it. By the way, there are sources by Erich Prokosch, he did write book about the language and did use the term "Dobrudschatatarisch". And also grammatically "Krimtatarisch (Rumänisch)" is wrong, the translation means "Crimean Tatar (Romanian)".

This comment was removed by TayfunEt.

Change 985345 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mbch331; author: Mbch331):

[mediawiki/extensions/cldr@master] Changed translations as requested

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/985345

Change 985345 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/cldr@master] Changed translations for crh-ro as requested

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/985345