@Zblace This looks good to me overall, thank you for adding it :) We can maybe refine this a little bit to bring more clarity, for example, to microtasks and final project outcomes, where to document them, and what they would look like.

As the deadline is in a day, I'd recommend following Step 4 here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Mentors to upload this on the Outreachy website as an immediate step.

@srishakatux I updated few points, but not sure if that was enough.

btw @frederic_ed is in your timezone if in need of feedback and I am off.

Hi @srishakatux, where can I request permission to be added to the Outhreachy mentor group?

@frederic_ed You can ignore that for now. As an immediate step, I need one of the mentors of this project to create an account and sign up as a mentor in the Outreachy administration system https://www.outreachy.org/ and after that upload the proposal here https://www.outreachy.org/outreachy-december-2022-internship-round/communities/wikimedia/submit-project/. Deadline is in a few hours away. Though I have requested a day's extension for this project, it will be very helpful if you could upload the proposal asap. Thank you! cc @Zblace

@frederic_ed @Zblace @OwenBlacker Thanks for getting the proposal up on the Outreachy website on time :) I have a few more comments/suggestions for you to consider for making changes to proposal here on Phabricator and on Outreachy's website:

• I see that you are asking potential interns to introduce themselves in three different chat channels, which feels like a lot to me. Could you maybe consider introducing only one of the platforms as mandatory and others as optional?
• For microtasks, what you have listed sounds like the tasks that are part of the overall project. Microtasks are usually small, self-contained, and easy tasks that take someone 2-3 days to complete. During the contribution period, there will be many interns looking for a lot of these tasks to do over one month. So, I feel like you need to reduce the scope, break them down further and list clear steps for one to work on them. See, for example, T318453.
• I was also wondering if there is any inspiration to gain from the following two resources regarding how to document the outcomes: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_remote_event_participation, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_on_open_source_team_communication_tools

Lastly, application period opens on Saturday, so consider making your microtasks public before that and linking them from the Outreachy site.

Thank you. Hope we are not to push all the limits, though I am aware it is quite different project then what is usually proposed for Outreachy.

Thank you for fast feedback. Here are my inputs in different order:

• Communication channels: I was not sure how to read that text and interface that gave me too many options *(rendering 3 new option forms each time I log in) with too many details... My assumption was that we all use Zulip for Outreachy *(love it if that is the way) and the rest were all optional communication channels for the community involved with QW, so I listed them all. Also I did not know which to prefer so I filled in by status and importance, but was also not sure how to mark them *(now added more descriptions).
• Inspiration: Yes I am member of CROW almost since the start, but will check more closely into second link on how to use it for making tasks. Hope @frederic_ed, @OwenBlacker and few others can also help to create a tasks for Saturday and later in the process :-)
• Mikrotasks: Yes that was good example to follow. I just created first few. First one is maybe 3 days of work or even more depending on research part and previous know-how? Next are twin tasks for 2 days of work or even less but they expect some work from first as done online-only events and hybrid events.

In T319310#8299420, @Zblace wrote:

Thank you. Hope we are not to push all the limits, though I am aware it is quite different project then what is usually proposed for Outreachy.

Thank you for fast feedback. Here are my inputs in different order:

• Communication channels: I was not sure how to read that text and interface that gave me too many options *(rendering 3 new option forms each time I log in) with too many details... My assumption was that we all use Zulip for Outreachy *(love it if that is the way) and the rest were all optional communication channels for the community involved with QW, so I listed them all. Also I did not know which to prefer so I filled in by status and importance, but was also not sure how to mark them *(now added more descriptions).

Yes, you are right. I also realized it later while reviewing another project that it's because of the way interface accepts response to the chat channels related question. If you would prefer to use your own channel, that's totally fine. But you are also welcome to use Wikimedia's Zulip and make a separate topic under https://wikimedia.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/336167-outreachy25 for your project to chat w/ potential candidates. But maybe just make it clear which ones for which on the Outreachy website.

• Mikrotasks: Yes that was good example to follow. I just created first few. First one is maybe 3 days of work or even more depending on research part and previous know-how? Next are twin tasks for 2 days of work or even less but they expect some work from first as done online-only events and hybrid events.

They are looking good. I've one minor comment. I see that you say in the description, "We will send you a reply to say whether it is accepted or not on the talk page for the contribution." I'd encourage you to continuously give feedback on interns' contributions but not disclose whether they are "accepted" or "rejected," as that may discourage them from further participation. The application period is also a good learning exercise :)

Hello, I am Gbemisola Esho an outreachy applicant who will like to contribute to this project.

Hello, I’m Bishops!
Outreachy applicant and I’d love to be a part of this project as a contributor!!
Looking forward to hearing from you!

@Notjob consider to communicate on Zulip questions that are not specific to individual tasks.

@Zblace so sorry, i have not been settled since yesterday.
Having gone through the tasks, I'll be working on the front-end microtask. T317083

I hope that's okay? is there a deadline pls?

In T319310#8313291, @Zblace wrote:

@Notjob consider to communicate on Zulip questions that are not specific to individual tasks.

so sorry, i have not been settled since yesterday.
Having gone through the tasks, I'll be working on the front-end microtask. T317083

I hope that's okay? is there a deadline pls?

That is not OK @Notjob. It is find that you work on that microtask, but it is owned by @Slst2020 as part of other project.

In T319310#8314031, @Zblace wrote:

That is not OK @Notjob. It is find that you work on that microtask, but it is owned by @Slst2020 as part of other project.

wow maybe I'm mixing the whole projects up.

could you pls give a quick walk through, and is it possible to work on multiple projects?

I believe you are in charge of project T319310, yes? but I could not find the task assigned to said project.
I'm still trying to find my way around the site, could you pls point me to where the tasks are stated?

@Notjob read this page even more carefully and you will find links to where to ask questions and to tasks.

In T319310#8314102, @Zblace wrote:

@Notjob read this page even more carefully and you will find links to where to ask questions and to tasks.

I have gone through the tasks, but it doesn't seem clear to me. I am proficient in HTML/CSS/JS(React.Js), but I don't see clear cut instructions on implementing said skills. I am confused.

I can not help individually here about general comprehension and will remove my previous comments from here, as this should be discussion in Zulip (link provided above).

In T319310#8314166, @Zblace wrote:

I can not help individually here about general comprehension and will remove my previous comments from here, as this should be discussion in Zulip (link provided above).

Alright thanks

I am available on https://meet.jit.si/QW2023outreachy for the next hour or so if need be...

Thanks to everyone for participating in this effort.
Outreachy.org will be delivering results in 2 weeks from now if all is OK

Okay, and thank you

We just got an email from Outreachy that there is 24 hour delay, but results should be available later tomorrow. Once more thank you for your efforts and hopefully continuous involvement with both Wikimedia and Wikimedia LGBT+ UserGroup regardless of results.

Okay.

@Zblace This is the main task related to the Outreachy project that I recommend keeping open till the project continues. If the related microtasks are complete, consider closing them and leaving them unassigned. I suggest @Andrerodriguex create a subtask of this project, self-assign it, and use it to track/update progress.

@Zblace I see that @Andrerodriguex has already added final project outcomes here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Past_projects#Round_25. Please consider changing the task status to resolved if you consider it as done. Thank you :)