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IRC Logs for March 30th 2018 AWMD monthly meeting
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2018-03-30 15:50:08 <r054l13> Hi guys the meeting is about to start in few minutes
2018-03-30 15:50:35 <r054l13> If you know a few guys you can ping to remind them please do.
2018-03-30 15:50:45 <r054l13> Thanks! :D
2018-03-30 15:57:53 <africanhope> r054l13: thanks
2018-03-30 15:58:44 ** noela joined channel
2018-03-30 16:00:07 <d3r1ck> Hi everyone!
2018-03-30 16:00:33 <africanhope> d3r1ck: Hello man
2018-03-30 16:00:50 <r054l13> Hi d3r1ck
2018-03-30 16:01:02 <d3r1ck> Agenda is located here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185803.
2018-03-30 16:01:08 <r054l13> I think it's time.
2018-03-30 16:01:25 <d3r1ck> r054l13 is cheering the meeting! :)
2018-03-30 16:01:46 <r054l13> Thanks d3r1ck
2018-03-30 16:02:01 <r054l13> I will welcome some help from you and Samuel :)
2018-03-30 16:02:27 <d3r1ck> I'll help take down notes on the etherpad
2018-03-30 16:02:44 <africanhope> I'll give a helping hand too
2018-03-30 16:03:08 <r054l13> Ok Thank you guys! looking at the agenda, the first thing is introduction
2018-03-30 16:03:37 <r054l13> So i am not sure if there is any new member with us today.
2018-03-30 16:04:02 <r054l13> But if that is the case please own up and give us some intro :)
2018-03-30 16:04:29 <r054l13> Sveta: Hi!
2018-03-30 16:05:54 <r054l13> OK! Am I in this meeting just with d3r1ck and africanhope ?
2018-03-30 16:06:38 <d3r1ck> Maybe, other will join I think :)
2018-03-30 16:07:01 <r054l13> Ok! so should we give them like 10 more minutes?
2018-03-30 16:07:28 <d3r1ck> If the agenda permits us, then yes why not?
2018-03-30 16:08:06 <r054l13> Ok!
2018-03-30 16:08:15 <africanhope> We could do so, while pinging some people
2018-03-30 16:08:25 <r054l13> Ok good idea
2018-03-30 16:09:48 <africanhope> r054l13: Do you usually add the agenda to the etherpad at the very begining of the meeting or do you add agenda's points as where touch each of them?
2018-03-30 16:10:07 <africanhope> as we touch them*
2018-03-30 16:10:41 <r054l13> As we touch them I think
2018-03-30 16:10:54 <africanhope> Well noted, thanks
2018-03-30 16:11:05 <r054l13> WCM
2018-03-30 16:11:27 <africanhope> Eugene233: are you around?
2018-03-30 16:11:32 <wikibugs> Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, Developer-Relations: Africa Wikimedia Developers IRC general meeting #4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185803#4094566 (D3r1ck01)
2018-03-30 16:12:29 ** onix_ joined channel
2018-03-30 16:12:47 <onix_> Hi all
2018-03-30 16:12:54 <r054l13> onix_:hi! welcome
2018-03-30 16:12:56 <africanhope> onix_: Hello
2018-03-30 16:13:05 <Eugene233> Hi all
2018-03-30 16:13:15 <r054l13> Hi Eugene233
2018-03-30 16:13:19 <d3r1ck> onix_: Hey! Welcome!
2018-03-30 16:13:22 <d3r1ck> Hey Eugene233
2018-03-30 16:13:22 <onix_> Finaly I find you guys :)
2018-03-30 16:13:32 <d3r1ck> onix_: We are always here :)
2018-03-30 16:13:43 <africanhope> noela: would you join us?
2018-03-30 16:14:07 <africanhope> Eugene233: welcome
2018-03-30 16:14:10 <noela> africanhope: I am there :)
2018-03-30 16:14:25 <Eugene233> Thanks @africanhope
2018-03-30 16:14:56 <onix_> d3r1ck: yeah but didn't find the channel for a while now. As said in the mail i hope to contribute as well but still didn't get the chance
2018-03-30 16:15:02 <africanhope> noela: its cool to read from you :)
2018-03-30 16:15:35 <d3r1ck> onix_: Okay! This is the channel and anytime you have something, you can drop here with no hessitation.
2018-03-30 16:16:27 <r054l13> The channel is now in better state. we can look at the agenda I guess
2018-03-30 16:17:22 <r054l13> Before onix_ Eugene233 and noela we were on introduction
2018-03-30 16:17:37 <r054l13> But I think none of them is new or?
2018-03-30 16:17:58 <d3r1ck> Yes
2018-03-30 16:18:00 <Eugene233> Certainly @r054l13
2018-03-30 16:18:00 <r054l13> so we can look at the next point.
2018-03-30 16:18:01 <d3r1ck> We can move on!
2018-03-30 16:18:07 <r054l13> Great1
2018-03-30 16:18:09 <r054l13> !*
2018-03-30 16:19:02 <r054l13> Next thing on agender is GSoC/outreachy application
2018-03-30 16:19:13 <r054l13> with aplicants from Africa
2018-03-30 16:19:22 <r054l13> applicants*
2018-03-30 16:19:45 <d3r1ck> Okay! Is there anyone in the room that applied for GSoC 2018 or Outreachy Round 16 for Wikimedia?
2018-03-30 16:20:35 <r054l13> I did. Anyone else?
2018-03-30 16:21:02 <africanhope> Someone from CI but he had to drop
2018-03-30 16:21:11 <d3r1ck> Ohhh damn!
2018-03-30 16:21:19 <d3r1ck> Bamlifa is not in the meeting, I think he also applied
2018-03-30 16:21:27 <r054l13> ok!
2018-03-30 16:21:28 <d3r1ck> So that makes 2
2018-03-30 16:21:28 <africanhope> Language was a barrier, and we'll probably better prepare for next year
2018-03-30 16:21:36 <d3r1ck> Ohhh no :(
2018-03-30 16:21:48 <d3r1ck> Well noted africanhope!
2018-03-30 16:21:48 <r054l13> africanhope: sure!
2018-03-30 16:22:10 <r054l13> I think it make ~2
2018-03-30 16:22:44 <r054l13> that's not very good for a start but it is better than none.
2018-03-30 16:22:46 <africanhope> However r054l13 provided good guidance to this participant, yet as mentioned above, he wasn't comfortable enough in English to continue the process.
2018-03-30 16:23:24 <d3r1ck> Okay!
2018-03-30 16:23:42 <r054l13> So given that Bamlifa and the CI guy(Stephane) are not around
2018-03-30 16:23:55 <Eugene233> Oh that’s sad @africanhope.
2018-03-30 16:24:00 <d3r1ck> So the question I see in the agenda is: "What to do after you've applied for GSoC?"
2018-03-30 16:24:27 <r054l13> But the applicants are not there. except me
2018-03-30 16:24:33 <r054l13> so we may skip that
2018-03-30 16:24:36 <r054l13> or?
2018-03-30 16:24:44 <africanhope> yes we can
2018-03-30 16:25:08 <d3r1ck> Okay! Was thinking the'll read the logs but if we agree to skip, then fine!
2018-03-30 16:25:12 <d3r1ck> What next? :)
2018-03-30 16:25:17 <r054l13> Ok thank you. Now Discussion around GSS2WT converter project for AMWD.
2018-03-30 16:25:49 <r054l13> I will give the floor to africanhope and d3r1ck on this
2018-03-30 16:26:12 <africanhope> primarily to @d3r1ck
2018-03-30 16:26:30 <d3r1ck> Ohhh GSS2WT means: Google Spread Sheet to Wiki Table Converter
2018-03-30 16:26:46 <r054l13> ok!
2018-03-30 16:26:59 <d3r1ck> Basically, it's a tool / script / project to scrape data from a Google Spread Sheet to a Wiki Table
2018-03-30 16:27:07 <d3r1ck> The Wikitable will look like the GSS
2018-03-30 16:27:15 <wikibugs> Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, Developer-Relations: Africa Wikimedia Developers IRC general meeting #4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185803#4094584 (rosalieper)
2018-03-30 16:27:22 <d3r1ck> Are my making sense?
2018-03-30 16:27:34 <r054l13> yes!
2018-03-30 16:27:46 <r054l13> Sure
2018-03-30 16:28:13 <d3r1ck> So it's project that is still at a conceptual level even though I've build something already that scrapes a GSS and updates a Wikipage
2018-03-30 16:28:25 <r054l13> ok but how is AWMD involved
2018-03-30 16:28:27 <d3r1ck> The edits so far are made as anon
2018-03-30 16:28:41 <d3r1ck> So AWMD folks will contribute on building this tool
2018-03-30 16:28:47 <d3r1ck> The repo will reside on Github
2018-03-30 16:28:49 <Eugene233> Very nice idea
2018-03-30 16:28:59 <d3r1ck> And anyone is free to contribute
2018-03-30 16:29:20 <d3r1ck> When repo goes on Github, there will be a detail document / README.md to explain the problem this project is trying to solve
2018-03-30 16:29:29 <r054l13> That sounds great
2018-03-30 16:29:46 <d3r1ck> Okay!
2018-03-30 16:30:11 <r054l13> Thank you d3r1ck
2018-03-30 16:30:44 <d3r1ck> If we're good, we can move on. You're welcome r054l13
2018-03-30 16:30:49 <r054l13> I will email guys about this great idea. What do you think?
2018-03-30 16:31:08 <africanhope> (help with the Etherpad is welcome, I am a bit behind the conversation pace)
2018-03-30 16:31:08 <r054l13> africanhope: anything to add?
2018-03-30 16:31:18 <r054l13> ok ok
2018-03-30 16:31:20 <africanhope> Yes just quick thoughts
2018-03-30 16:31:26 <africanhope> This project is great
2018-03-30 16:31:52 <r054l13> Ok thank you
2018-03-30 16:32:06 <r054l13> Next thing -> Are you interested in hosting an AWMD full scale event in your country?
2018-03-30 16:32:58 <d3r1ck> Rosalie, the next is "Addressing difficulties faced by applicant to on going outreach program."
2018-03-30 16:33:04 <d3r1ck> Before what you mentioned above
2018-03-30 16:33:23 <r054l13> Aah! you are right
2018-03-30 16:33:24 <r054l13> thanks
2018-03-30 16:33:41 <d3r1ck> So one difficulty is language which Samuel already raised
2018-03-30 16:33:45 <d3r1ck> What other difficulty?
2018-03-30 16:33:48 <r054l13> yea
2018-03-30 16:34:07 <africanhope> I want to add few things
2018-03-30 16:34:13 <r054l13> knowledge on how to approche the program
2018-03-30 16:34:17 <r054l13> africanhope: ok!
2018-03-30 16:34:18 <d3r1ck> africanhope: Go ahead please :)
2018-03-30 16:34:27 <africanhope> exactly r054l13:
2018-03-30 16:34:35 <africanhope> 'knowledge on how to approche the program'
2018-03-30 16:34:53 <africanhope> When trying to guide participants through the process, I myself struggled a bit
2018-03-30 16:35:21 <africanhope> Mainly because I have never applied myself then, I don't fully know all the steps involved
2018-03-30 16:35:24 <d3r1ck> Ohhh but there are lots of docs online about GSoC
2018-03-30 16:35:34 <d3r1ck> What exactly was the issue r054l13 & africanhope?
2018-03-30 16:35:42 <africanhope> For instance this is where r054l13 played a key role guiding the participant from CIV.
2018-03-30 16:36:03 <d3r1ck> Okay!
2018-03-30 16:36:08 <africanhope> d3r1ck: I did not know which step came after another during the process
2018-03-30 16:36:20 <d3r1ck> Okay, let me fetch some links right away
2018-03-30 16:36:35 <d3r1ck> But there is a timeline that shows all the steps and dates as well
2018-03-30 16:36:46 <africanhope> d3r1ck: If you remember at some poing I pinged you asking things like 'my guy registerd though GsOc website, whta'ts next?'
2018-03-30 16:36:55 <r054l13> d3r1ck: The problem came in as a result of late preparation from us. this meeting was to take place long before now
2018-03-30 16:36:55 <d3r1ck> africanhope: See this: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline.
2018-03-30 16:37:15 <africanhope> d3r1ck: I concur with r054l13 o nthis
2018-03-30 16:37:17 <r054l13> d3r1ck: And the delay cost us
2018-03-30 16:37:18 <d3r1ck> Okay!
2018-03-30 16:37:33 <d3r1ck> Ohhh so the knowledge is as a result of a meeting not holding
2018-03-30 16:37:39 <d3r1ck> So we need to have more meetings on time :)
2018-03-30 16:37:47 <r054l13> not really :)
2018-03-30 16:37:57 <d3r1ck> Ohhh, so what is the issue? :)
2018-03-30 16:38:21 <r054l13> d3r1ck: my point is, we should have tried guiding participants at an earlier time
2018-03-30 16:38:27 <d3r1ck> For GSoC documentation, there would be a lot of reading, one can start here: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq.
2018-03-30 16:38:29 <r054l13> even via mail
2018-03-30 16:38:39 <africanhope> We could blame it on the experience, in my case particularly. r054l13 knew how to guide my guy, I did not.
2018-03-30 16:38:59 <d3r1ck> r054l13: Guiding one participant at a time is a lot of energy. So meeting were all of them attend and they are guided at same time speeds the process.
2018-03-30 16:39:02 <africanhope> (addin the documentation link to etherpad, thanks)
2018-03-30 16:39:28 <r054l13> d3r1ck: good point
2018-03-30 16:39:42 <d3r1ck> So it boils down to the meeting :)
2018-03-30 16:39:48 <r054l13> We had a meeting before application and now after
2018-03-30 16:39:58 <r054l13> but didn't have one during so :(
2018-03-30 16:40:08 <d3r1ck> Yes, we missed that particular meeting before application. Well noted!
2018-03-30 16:40:11 <r054l13> d3r1ck: yes
2018-03-30 16:40:35 <r054l13> During not before
2018-03-30 16:40:41 <r054l13> we hadd one before
2018-03-30 16:41:12 <d3r1ck> Okay!
2018-03-30 16:41:16 <r054l13> ok So we shall plan better for next year
2018-03-30 16:41:21 <r054l13> I guess
2018-03-30 16:41:25 <d3r1ck> onix_: Did you apply?
2018-03-30 16:41:49 <d3r1ck> The floor is open for everyone and even if you didn't apply, you may have an idea. Please feel free to drop something here :)
2018-03-30 16:42:35 <r054l13> Eugene233: :O
2018-03-30 16:43:24 <d3r1ck> I'll be leaving the meeting in 15mins to another meeting! :(
2018-03-30 16:43:33 <r054l13> Ok! I believe there's nothing more to say on that point
2018-03-30 16:43:55 <r054l13> Next in the queu -> Are you interested in hosting an AWMD full scale event in your country?
2018-03-30 16:43:59 <Eugene233> I was observing and following the conversation guys but I think best to do is to plan before hand
2018-03-30 16:44:13 <Eugene233> Sorry am abit slow
2018-03-30 16:44:20 <r054l13> Ok! noted Eugene233
2018-03-30 16:44:30 <r054l13> Its fine :)
2018-03-30 16:44:36 <r054l13> Next in the queu -> Are you interested in hosting an AWMD full scale event in your country?
2018-03-30 16:45:00 <d3r1ck> So far, AWMD has taken place in Ghana and Cote d'Ivoire
2018-03-30 16:45:18 <d3r1ck> Nigeria will take place on a few days (12th & 13th April hopefully)
2018-03-30 16:45:30 <r054l13> Great!
2018-03-30 16:45:51 <r054l13> any Nigerian in here?
2018-03-30 16:46:03 <Eugene233> Cameroon is very eager to welcome the program.
2018-03-30 16:46:12 <r054l13> :)
2018-03-30 16:46:30 <r054l13> onix_: what about your community
2018-03-30 16:46:35 <r054l13> ?
2018-03-30 16:46:52 <d3r1ck> Eugene233: Okay! Well noted!
2018-03-30 16:48:33 <r054l13> Cameroon will surely be the next after Nigeria
2018-03-30 16:49:11 <r054l13> And we are ready for that as Eugene mentioned :D
2018-03-30 16:49:25 <d3r1ck> Noted!
2018-03-30 16:49:39 <r054l13> Thanks
2018-03-30 16:49:40 ** bam_ joined channel
2018-03-30 16:49:46 <africanhope> That's really good to hear
2018-03-30 16:49:54 <r054l13> Welcom bam
2018-03-30 16:49:55 <africanhope> looking forward to it!
2018-03-30 16:50:02 <bam_> hey
2018-03-30 16:50:09 <bam_> sorry, I was out
2018-03-30 16:50:37 <d3r1ck> Okay! Any other country wants an AWMD training
2018-03-30 16:50:49 <d3r1ck> Cameroon has made strong requests and getting ready after Nigeria
2018-03-30 16:51:19 <r054l13> OK! Great
2018-03-30 16:51:53 <d3r1ck> I'm aware Bam filed a request so I'll add by saying if you need a training in your country, file the request here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Africa_Wikimedia_Developers_Project/Request_by_Country
2018-03-30 16:51:59 <d3r1ck> Add a section to that page
2018-03-30 16:53:35 <d3r1ck> [Sorry people, I'll take my leave as I have another meeting. I'll read the logs later. Thanks]
2018-03-30 16:53:42 <d3r1ck> checks out

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