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[Pages Created] Add disclaimer that deleted pages may include redirects
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Redirect pages deleted appear in pages created, even though they may not be redirects. We should add a disclaimer that we don't know if the deleted pages were redirects.

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I don't quite follow. My answer is the same as at T202140: The Problem Of Pages Created

We don't know if a deleted page was a redirect (this isn't possible), but we still expose them so that admins can have a link to it and find out for themselves. That's the best answer I can give.

We could add a message, "Deleted pages may or may not have been redirects". How does that sound? That way there is at least a disclaimer.

MusikAnimal, I'm afriad your reply over there is not answering my question. I was asking to fix the problem. However, what your answer is "see if a page was a redirect before it was deleted".
I was asking to fix the problem which redirect pages appeared on the pages created. It confused Wikipedian to culculate the contributions.

Okay, sorry if I misunderstood you!

To be clear, there's no way to know if a deleted page was a redirect. We still want to list the deleted pages, whether or not we're asking for redirects, because those deleted pages might be redirects. As I said we can add a disclaimer, though. That will hopefully help with confusion.

If you want to hide redirects altogether, use the "Exclude redirects" option: https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Jimbo%20Wales
This will still list deleted pages, which might be deleted redirects, but again this is intentional because there's no way to know if the deleted page was a redirect.

There's also the option to "Exclude deleted pages" https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Jimbo%20Wales/0/noredirects/live if that helps?

If I'm missing something, please let me know. Thanks!

Thank you very much about that.No more questions or problems here.
To be turth, I feel a little bit upset about that. But since that clinches it, I could only continue to count my contributions.
Have a good day.

Yeah I wish we could tell if deleted pages were redirects! This is not possible because XTools cannot see the content of deleted pages (only admins can).

So anyway I will add a disclaimer so that people at least know this issue exists.

Sorry we can't do more!

MusikAnimal renamed this task from Redirect Pages Deleted Appears In Pages Created to [Pages Created] Add disclaimer that deleted pages may include redirects.Aug 17 2018, 3:15 PM
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