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Request extended mover user right at lmo.wiktionary.org
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I request that the extendedmover (page mover i.e. users who can be allowed to move entries by overwriting or without leaving redirects) user group to be added at lmo.wiktionary.org

We have established consensus here: https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_3_-_01_-_2023_-_14:51

The request is made as Lombard has many variations and the custom is to create a main entry with the definitions and for the variants, refer to the main entry. The Lombard community has decided (https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_3_-_01_-_2023_-_14:16) that it is appropriate to move the title of the main item to the most representative variant. Some users enabled in this job may not be administrators but simply movers.

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@Gat_lombart: In the future, please always follow https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes when requesting such site configuration changes. Thanks!

@Gat_lombart Hi! Could you please clarify what kind of permissions should be added to this new group? FYI, enwiki has a similar group, and they have these following permissions:

'extendedmover' => [
	'move' => true,
	'move-subpages' => true,
	'move-categorypages' => true,
	'suppressredirect' => true,
	'delete-redirect' => true,
	'tboverride' => true,
]

And I would like to know who is allowed to add/remove this group to/from a user. Thanks!

@Stang Members of the new group must have permission to move pages even overwriting an existing page and without leaving redirects. Permissions are needed only for the main namespace, i.e. the permission is needed to move articles (and associated talk pages) but not needed for move categories. permissions can be added or removed by administrators.

'extendedmover' => [
'move' => true,
'move-subpages' => true,
'move-categorypages' => no
'suppressredirect' => true,
'delete-redirect' => true,
'tboverride' => true,
]

Change 884378 had a related patch set uploaded (by Stang; author: Stang):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] lmowiktionary: Create extendedmover group

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/884378

Hello, I have a question here: as of today, lmowiktionary is a fairly small wiki with few admins. As having more admins is generally helpful, I'm wondering, is there a reason to avoid granting full sysop rights to people who want with the moving described in the task's description?

@Urbanecm
Being an administrator requires knowing the wiki's regulations and being able to apply them, so it's a more responsible job than a mover. When a new user has something to ask, he will contact an administrator, who must be a sufficiently experienced person, and if he is not, the image of the whole wiki will be damaged. Therefore there can be users with mover skills but not with sysop skills.
To be a mover you need to know mostly the rules for moving items (https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Regole_per_el_spostament_di_vos_lombarde), to be a sysop you must be able to apply all local wiki rules
(https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categoria:Linee_guida).

@Stang At what point is the task? Did you encounter any technical problems while performing this task?

@Stang At what point is the task? Did you encounter any technical problems while performing this task?

Will do next week, sorry about the busy real life.

Change 884378 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] lmowiktionary: Create extendedmover group

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/884378

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-02-13T21:16:55Z] <taavi@deploy1002> Started scap: lmowiktionary: Create extendedmover group (T327340)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-02-13T21:18:40Z] <taavi@deploy1002> taavi: lmowiktionary: Create extendedmover group (T327340) synced to the testservers: mwdebug2001.codfw.wmnet, mwdebug1001.eqiad.wmnet, mwdebug2002.codfw.wmnet, mwdebug1002.eqiad.wmnet

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-02-13T21:25:25Z] <taavi@deploy1002> Finished scap: lmowiktionary: Create extendedmover group (T327340) (duration: 08m 28s)

Stang removed a project: Patch-For-Review.

Group created. For l10n: the name of group extendedmover is defined at https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Group-extendedmover, if needed please modify it at translatewiki.