Help community projects on Bitbucket™ to evaluate the adoption of something less external and libre (for example Wikimedia GitLab)
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	Mar 1 2023, 10:27 AM

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Bitbucket™ is a proprietary platform, totally separated from both Phabricator and Wikimedia GitLab and not controlled in any way by Wikimedia Foundation (unlike GitHub, where the repositories are mirrored from WMF from an official account).

The objective advantage of Bitbucket™ was that it originated long before Wikimedia GitLab.

Note that Bitbucket™ is not just a "random" external tool. From the perspective of a newcomer, Bitbucket™ is surely a primary collaboration tool, since it's massively in use to host Wikimedia components that be considered "core" for the activity of lot of volunteers and end-users.

Thank you for any contribution to Wikimedia repositories on Bitbucket™. Here the list:

(In the meantime I would like to thank Magnus for this amazing work)

It would be useful to:

understand what is the state of these and other important repositories
possibly consider whether it might be more engaging for newcomers to have these repositories to Wikimedia GitLab (obviously with the collaboration of the software maintainer)
hope for more cooperation, and less stress for the maintainer, and more pull requests, and less external + proprietary tools for newcomers

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		Status	Subtype	Assigned	Task
		Open		None	T330844 Avoid to have too much different places (like Gerrit, GitHub, Differential, GitLab, ...) where code review may take place to help newcomers
		Stalled		None	T330846 Help community projects on Bitbucket™ to evaluate the adoption of something less external and libre (for example Wikimedia GitLab)

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valerio.bozzolan created this task.Mar 1 2023, 10:27 AM

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valerio.bozzolan renamed this task from Help community projects on Bitbucket™ to adopt something else (for example Wikimedia GitLab) to Help community projects on Bitbucket™ to evaluate the adoption of something less external and libre (for example Wikimedia GitLab).Mar 1 2023, 10:28 AM

valerio.bozzolan triaged this task as Low priority.

valerio.bozzolan mentioned this in T330797: Uninstall Differential (Phabricator application).Mar 1 2023, 10:30 AM

NOTE: Magnus if you are reading this, sorry me if I mentioned only your amazing work. You are not my target. I would ask others to help in mentioning more repositories from Bitbucket, if they know of them, to give more balance. I mentioned only those that I am aware of in some way from my browser bookmark, and it's surely incomplete.

That's probably a question for Magnus, and probably too early unless GitLab provides some more functionality we would like to see. Maintainers are free to host their code wherever they want (except for Wikimedia-deployed Git code repositories); people are also welcome to migrate. I don't think this task should remain open unless someone plans to work on it.

valerio.bozzolan updated the task description. (Show Details)Mar 1 2023, 10:37 AM

Aklapper changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Mar 1 2023, 10:40 AM

I agree with @Aklapper that I probably need to disturb with a ping our friend @Magnus to discuss together about the potential future direction. I just to see if the relevant parts of this task should be marked as "Wontfix, let's stay forever on Bitbucket" or something else.

valerio.bozzolan mentioned this in T330844: Avoid to have too much different places (like Gerrit, GitHub, Differential, GitLab, ...) where code review may take place to help newcomers.Mar 1 2023, 10:47 AM

To be more explicit, I do not want to drag community developers into GitLab yet until more GitLab pain points have been sorted out - it's still in an early adaptors stage. The failed Differential attempt years ago was frustrating and painful enough already for some community developers.

In T330846#8656143, @Aklapper wrote:

To be more explicit, I do not want to drag community developers into GitLab yet until more GitLab pain points have been sorted out - it's still in an early adaptors stage

Thanks. I tried to clarify that in the parent: T330844

The reason I used bitbucket in the past was a (long removed) policy on github that limited the number of free repos. I also have some repos on github, which is owned by M$ and probably not very libre either.

I did try to move one repo to phabricator/differential back in the day, still mentally recovering from that ;-)

But I am not in any way opposed to gitlab, WMF-run or otherwise.

In T330846#8656943, @Magnus wrote:

github ... is owned by M$ and probably not very libre either.

Yep good point. Clarified here: T330844.

In T330846#8656943, @Magnus wrote:

I did try to move one repo to phabricator/differential back in the day, still mentally recovering from that ;-)

(ROTFL)

But I am not in any way opposed to gitlab, WMF-run or otherwise.

You are the best. So I'll leave this task as Stalled, and meanwhile we can wait to see for Wikimedia GitLab to have bows and ribbons.

Matlin subscribed.Mar 5 2023, 5:42 PM

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