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Should temp users be counted as registered & active users on Special:Statistics?
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https://de.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Spezial:Aktive_Benutzer shows all the temp users from the last 30 days.

Would not expect them counted as active as that not the case when ips doing the edits

One fix should fix also {{NUMBEROFACTIVEUSERS}} and the count on Special:Statistics

Code is in RecentChangesUpdateJob::updateActiveUsers, needs to call isTemp on each actor_name

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@Mayakp.wiki @nshahquinn-wmf Do you have thoughts on this task? Basically temp accounts are currently being included in the user-related counts on Special:Statistics: https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics.
Relevant previous discussion: T337103#9143741

Niharika renamed this task from Should temp users are counted on Special:ActiveUsers / parser function numberofactiveusers / active users on Special:Statistics? to Should temp users be counted as registered & active users on Special:Statistics?.Dec 16 2024, 8:39 AM
Niharika triaged this task as Medium priority.

I would say that temp users should not be counted in these statistics.

The main reason is continuity: temp users would have previously been IP users and would not have been counted. This is the same reason that we are not including temp users in the active editors metric. (It seems like @kostajh and @jhsoby had the same reasoning as well.)

Not necessary for this task, but other ideas that I like:

  • Renaming "registered users" to "permanent users"
  • Changing the description of active users to "permanent users who have..." (changing the title from "active users" to "active permanent users" would be even more precise, but that might be excessive)
  • Adding an "active temporary users" row (this would make it more beneficial to change "active users" to "active permanent users"—otherwise it would seem like "active temporary users" would be included in "active users")

FWIW, English Wikipedia already customizes "active users" to "active registered users".

@Niharika which team would this need input from? I don't see another team tag on this task and I think the page is unowned (so we may need to handle updating it).

@kzimmerman do you have an input on this task? Or if you know who does please include them.

@Niharika what kind of input are you looking for?

In case you missed it, I already provided a Movement Insights opinion in T339291#10455982. That opinion (temp users shouldn't be counted) seems to align with what most people are thinking, so it seems reasonable at this point just to move to implementation.

Obviously, if you want broader consultation about what the definition should be, that's fine, but from your comment it's not clear that that's what you're looking for 😊

@kzimmerman do you have an input on this task? Or if you know who does please include them.

Hey @Niharika, I don't have good context on this. What kind of input are you looking for? Is this in addition to the input Neil previously provided?

Also - I don't always see Phab comments, so please ping me on Slack if you need something and I haven't responded.

@kzimmerman @nshahquinn-wmf My apologies I completely missed Neil's original comment in T339291#10455982 before I wrote mine. I think that comment answers what we need to do here:

I would say that temp users should not be counted in these statistics.
The main reason is continuity: temp users would have previously been IP users and would not have been counted. This is the same reason that we are not including temp users in the active editors metric.

I will update the task description to reflect this. Thanks for your help!

This came up in multiple community discussions and should have higher priority in my opinion. Special:Statistics should at least indicate that it now includes logged out editors as well (which greatly inflates the numbers, especially when users delete their cookies...). Ideally TA should be excluded, just like IPs used to be.

Niharika raised the priority of this task from Medium to High.Jan 29 2026, 4:06 PM

Thanks for that @Johannnes89. I will mark this as higher priority.

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@Madalina I'm adding this to Next since this feels important in light of the threads Johannes shared above.