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Author: brianna.laugher

Description:
Instead of going to Special:Upload, clicking on an image redlink should at least
offer the option of seeing the deletion logs, including Commons. I would guess
users rarely if ever choose to upload images by first redlinking them, and then
following the link. So a redlink 99% of the time would indicate a typo or a
deleted image.

Suggestion: "What might work as a nice compromise is: if there is a wpDestFile
parameter, it could display a new message at the top (eg MediaWiki:Noimagetext)
which would show something like "This image does not exist, you can upload it
below. See also the [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:$1}}}} logs] for
this page." by default (which would be easy to add a commons link too)."


Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement
URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Redlinked_images_shouldn.27t_go_to_Special:Upload

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brianna.laugher wrote:

The difficulty in tracking down Commons-deleted images from local projects is
causing some angst (see e.g.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Where_is_.22Vandalism_in_progress.22_.28COM:VIP.29_link.3F
) which I feel should be relatively easy to solve. Image redlinks are
significantly different to text redlinks and I think they should have separate
behaviour.

alphasigmax wrote:

(In reply to comment #0)

Instead of going to Special:Upload, clicking on an image redlink should at least
offer the option of seeing the deletion logs, including Commons. I would guess
users rarely if ever choose to upload images by first redlinking them, and then
following the link. So a redlink 99% of the time would indicate a typo or a
deleted image.

I'm not an expert, but this should be doable by changing the interface text.

Suggestion: What might work as a nice compromise is: if there is a wpDestFile
parameter, it could display a new message at the top (eg MediaWiki:Noimagetext)
which would show something like "This image does not exist, you can upload it
below. See also the [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:$1}}}} logs] for
this page." by default (which would be easy to add a commons link too)."

See above.

wikt.3.connelm wrote:

I would hope that a file that only ever existed on Commons: would not "pretend"
it exists on a local projext at all. If an image is deleted on commons:, there
should be some way for the sister projects to get to the commons upload page
(with its links to the deletion log, etc.) without the confusing step of being
sent to a local image upload page.

brianna.laugher wrote:

(In reply to comment #3)

I would hope that a file that only ever existed on Commons: would not "pretend"
it exists on a local projext at all.

You would think so, but see [[Bugzilla:5995]]. Apparently some projects edit
their "fake" image pages to include stuff like translations. There was strong
opposition to the idea of disallowing local description edits for Commons images.

Show relevant deletion log lines when uploading a previously deleted file was added a few weeks ago with r26175.