This task is about implementing a new experience for not-yet-created/empty non-user talk pages.
Where "non-user talk pages" in this context means any talk page that exists in the following [namespaces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Namespace):
|Namespace number| Description |
|---|---
|1| Main/Article talk
| 5|Wikipedia talk
| 7|File talk
| 9|MediaWiki talk
| 11|Template talk
| 13| Help talk
| 15| Category talk
| 101| Portal talk
| 119| Draft talk
| 711| TimedText talk
| 829|Module talk
=== User stories
**Understanding the purpose of the page**
- As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, I want to instantly understand the purpose of the page [i] I am now viewing, so that I can decide whether I should engage with the page more deeply or leave/go somewhere else.
- As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created and generally knows what the purpose of the page [i] is, I want to know where I can learn more about the page, so that I can feel more confident posting something to it.
**Initiating a conversation**
- As a Junior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, understands the purpose of the page [i], and who has a question they would like to ask/a topic they want to discuss with others, I want to know what I need to do to draft and publish that question/thought in a way others are likely to see and understand so that I can receive the input/guidance/etc. I need to help improve the encyclopedia.
- As a Junior Contributor who has just published a question/thought to a talk page, I want to know I've done so successfully so I do not need to wonder if there are additional steps I need to take to ensure people will see what I have to say.
**Editing the page**
- As a Senior Contributor who has clicked a link to a non-user talk page that not-yet-been-created, I want to be able to add content to the page (e.g. add a [talk page template](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Mod%C3%A8le_de_bandeau_de_page_de_discussion) without being constrained by the New Discussion Tool's `Title` / `Description` fields so that I can relate the talk page to others like it and/or signal to future visitors/editors information about the page to which the talk page is related.
-- //Example: adding a Wikiproject template, like [{{WikiProject Jazz}}](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Jazz)), to the page. Note: this behavior is most common at en.wiki.//
=== Copy
//This section contains the UI copy//
- **Title**: `Start a discussion about [[PAGENAME|PAGENAME]]*`
-- //*This should link to the page to which the talk page is related/attached/etc.//
- **Body**: `You can use this talk** page to start a discussion with others about how to improve [[en:PAGENAME|PAGENAME]]. To learn more about how these pages are used, go [[en:Help:Talk pages|here]]***.`
-- //**This word should be the one used at the project (e.g. `Talk`, `Discussion`, etc.).//
-- //***This link should link to the local project's equivalent page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4592157. //
- **Button copy**: `Start a discussion`
=== Mockups
Desktop:
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{F34534941 width=600}
{F34534957 width=600}
{F34534961 width = 600}
{F34534963 width=600}
//Mobile://
| Tap new discussion button {F34534738 width=200}| New Discussion tool revealed {F34534740 width=200} | Content entered and "add topic" tapped {F34534743 width=200}| Success messages {F34534746 width=200} | Final state {F34534748 width=200}
===Illustration
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=== Requirements
Mockups should be created for both **desktop** and **mobile** user experiences.
**New specification as of 6/2/2021**: Create some variations of the mock up to share with Editing team based on notes [[ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_2XdbhEDhCmff4Ea3X7AEZntu_78ZuxpjBvlLx1BGks/edit#heading=h.uou5etl28jg | here ]].
=== Open questions
- [ ] What – if any – edit notices should people seeking to start a new conversation on a talk page that does not yet exist be notified about?
=== Done
- [x] Designs for mobile and desktop that fulfill the stories defined above are posted to the `Mockups` section.
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i. Purpose of the page: a space to communicate with other volunteers about the page to which the talk page is related/attached.