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Wikimediaro-l appears to lack list owners, and spam sent to the list owners was forwarded to a non-list owner
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I received a junk email that was directed to To the best of my knowledge, I'm not a list owner or list memember for Wikimediaro-l. Checking suggests that there are no list owners.

There appear to be at least two mysteries. Why are there apparently no list owners, and why would email sent to be sent to me?

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Pine created this task.Sep 25 2016, 12:32 AM
Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. · View Herald TranscriptSep 25 2016, 12:32 AM
tomasz added a subscriber: tomasz.

Boldly adding James Alexander and Daniel Zahn as they both have access to the Mailman interface and can resolve this.

tomasz added a subscriber: Dzahn.Oct 19 2016, 9:28 AM
Dzahn added a comment.Nov 9 2016, 9:58 PM

I don't see a list owner, correct. The former owners could have removed themselves. Would you know who should be added as new list owner?

Dzahn added a comment.Nov 9 2016, 10:03 PM

There is nothing set for admin or moderator, i don't know why that is or why you received the emal. But if you have a suggestion who should be owner or how to find one, let me know and i can set it. Or we could close the list. Maybe could somebody mail the list itself to find a new admin?

bump, any list admin we can add here? or is the list inactive and should be closed?

Pine added a comment.Mar 18 2017, 3:09 AM

My instinct at this time would be to close the list, as it appears to have been abandoned. The last post was from 2014. The list can be re-activated if there is interest.

Dzahn claimed this task.Mar 20 2017, 3:48 AM
Dzahn added a comment.Mar 20 2017, 7:44 PM

@Pine thank you, ok. I disabled the list and it can be re-enabled.


[fermium:~] $ sudo /usr/local/sbin/disable_list wikimediaro-l
wikimediaro-l disabled. Archives should be available at current location, all mail should be moderated and the list should not be on the listinfo page.

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-03-20T19:45:34Z] <mutante> lists: disabled wikimediaro-l due to inactivity (disabling lists is easy nowadays and also revertable): fermium: sudo /usr/local/sbin/disable_list <list name> | (T146563)

Dzahn closed this task as Resolved.Mar 20 2017, 7:46 PM

for the curious, this is what "disable_list" actually means in more detail:

 9 function disable_list {
10     echo "advertised=0" | config_list -i /dev/stdin $list
11     echo "emergency=1"  | config_list -i /dev/stdin $list
12     echo "member_moderation_action=2" | config_list -i /dev/stdin $list
13     echo "generic_nonmember_action=2" | config_list -i /dev/stdin $list
14     echo "ban_list=['^.*@.*']" | config_list -i /dev/stdin $list
15     if find /var/lib/mailman/data/ | grep heldmsg-$list; then
16         rm /var/lib/mailman/data/heldmsg-$list-*.pck
17     fi
18 }