Author: 3tx38k
Description:
Request layout change on editing buttons
Hi, Sysop.
This is serious problem and its request. I describe current condition and change request or solution here.
On Wikipedia, the final course of article edit or new article creation, user handles fill in "'''Edit summary'''", three button of "'''Save page'''", " '''Show preview'''" and "'''Show changes'''".
Current lay out of these are '''Edit summary frame''' and '''three buttons''', Edit summary comes first, then Save page, and Show Preview and Show changes are following.
My request herein is based on many number of Japanese language oriented users and please understand that I am representing those users.
I now put the REQUEST here, Edit summary, as is now, then CHANGE REQUEST IS put "Show Preview" in first, then "Save Page" then "Show Changes".
'''Simply relocate "Save Page" and Show Preview" button layout or order'''.
Now, I describe the reason of request.
As far as when user place [[Cursor (computers)|Cursor]] in Edit Summary frame with or without fill-in the frame, and press [[Enter key]] as delimiter of fill-in sentence or Press Enter key with mistake or erroneously, Enter key proceeds to save page as Wikipedia is designated.
If "Show Preview" then "Save Page" button is lay out as requested, pressing Enter key proceeds show preview, so that
erroneous saving page is avoided.
English language and most other language oriented users may not feel current layout of buttons is not inconvenient, because Enter Key is used as a delimiter of Edit Summary single line sentence, and erroneous pressing of Enter is his own mistake.
Now, I must describe how Japanese language is editing on computer by keyboard. There is a subprogram called [[Input method editor|IME]], some time called front end processor for program and in between keyboard and program, Wikipedia is as well.
Even for editing Japanese user is writing English like [[Alphabet]] [[Letter (alphabet)|letter]] or [[Character (computing)|character]], the conditions is the exactly the same to English language oriented user, including erroneous Enter Key pressing.
Japanese language editing, however, uses [[Input method editor|IME]] facility and use of IME is mandatory to make Japanese language with mixture of [[Kanji]], [[Hiragana]], [[Katakana]], [[Alphabet]] and Numeral and symbols letters.
To create [[Kanji]] in sentence, types word(s) or a sentence with [[hiragana]] or [[Romaji]] as first step, then press Enter Key to delimits and converts to Kanji. The chances of pressing Enter key in usual Japanese language sentences is too many times. In course of Japanese sentence making, pressing Enter key is quite frequently mistakenly pressed. Mistakenly pressed Enter Key, however, does not create serious problem, it is well able to recover as normal procedure.
Wikipedia, however, fill-in "Edit Summary" frame with Japanese Language and mistakenly press Enter key goes to "Save Page", and this is serious that erroneously edit the article or discussion pages.
According to the article of [[Input method editor|IME]], Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Indic characters uses IME and probably facing the same erroneous save page is occurred.
These language user who use IME facility have much much more chance of erroneous pressing of Enter key than English or other language user.
For clarity, note that pressing Enter Key with IME is not sentence delimiter, but it is converting order of [[Kanji]] or Chinese, Korean and Indic characters, and chances of pressing Enter Key within single sentence is depends on the how many number of Kanji like none-Alphabet letter is embedded.
Not only for Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Indic characters user,''' but also English and other language user, Erroneous press of Enter Key''' within a frame of Edit summary is a problem to erroneously "save page"of article or discussion.
To change lay out of button of "Save page" and "Show Preview" location only for Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Indic characters or language oriented Wikipedia edition seems not practical, and this request might apply to '''ALL LANGUAGE EDITION as BIG Changes.'''
If possible, "Save page" with '''orange colored''', and "Show preview" with '''green colored''' is more noticeable for all user to avoid erroneous operation.
If large notice or warning sentence is proceeding for such BIG CHANGE and possibility colored, none of Wikipedia user is confused with such sudden changes.
I am described above for Wikipedia, but this request apply to all sites of Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.(Commons, Wikinews, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikispecies, Wikiversity and Meta-Wiki), and relating site such as '''MediaWiki ''' sites and ALL language editions.
Your consideration of above request will be highly appreciated and thank you in advance and if you need more talks on this subject, I welcome discussion with you as presenting some great number of Japanese language oriented user. Thank you again.--[[User:Namazu-tron|Namazu-tron]] ([[User talk:Namazu-tron|talk]]) 11:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
PS:</br>I know about Japanese and English only. Wikipedia is multi-language encyclopedia and user does use all most any language.
IME or IME like front end process sub program used on Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Indic characters, but it is assumable that IME like function is used on some number of language on computer keyboard to create its own letters or words. Enter key may have specific function on each IME like other than sentence delimiter.
In such context, Enter key in Edit Summary for save page should be avoided. To safer way is relocate the position of save page button and show preview button. Please do not think about only English language or English alike language editing. --[[User:Namazu-tron|Namazu-tron]] ([[User talk:Namazu-tron|talk]]) 01:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Version: 1.12.x
Severity: major
URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators#Request_layout_change_on_editing_buttons