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Create a MediaWiki package for download which contain basic elements of the English Wikipedia
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[I expect that someone else already posted this suggestion back in the stone age. Please subscribe me to that that post.]

It would be extremely useful to have a empty English Wikipedia (MediaWikipedia) package of MediaWiki so people can import/export the majority of all articles from Wikipedia to their own MediaWiki instance out of the box!

Can this idea be a MediaWiki extension? The import/export tool can be used but it is a bit painful and even worst, it does not work out of the box, I get errors when I'm trying to import Wikipedia templates to my own MediaWiki.

Things that should be implemented in MediaWikipedia:

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So basic a basic Wikipedia article can be used like:

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David_Hedlund created this task.May 12 2017, 7:40 PM
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You purpose a Mediawiki package that contain basic data - templates/modules, prefs, config, to correspond to a "clean" Wikipedia without main articles ?
It's a good idea but don't forget that we are a multilingual language, so it should contain different language data, and all the Wikipedias don't have same templates/config.

Framawiki renamed this task from MediaWiki Wikipedia edition to Create a special MediaWiki packtage that contain basic elements of Wikipedia.May 12 2017, 9:22 PM
David_Hedlund renamed this task from Create a special MediaWiki packtage that contain basic elements of Wikipedia to Create a special MediaWiki package that contain basic elements of Wikipedia.May 13 2017, 10:31 AM
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David_Hedlund renamed this task from Create a special MediaWiki package that contain basic elements of Wikipedia to Feature request: Create a special MediaWiki package that contain basic elements of the English Wikipedia.May 13 2017, 10:50 AM
David_Hedlund renamed this task from Feature request: Create a special MediaWiki package that contain basic elements of the English Wikipedia to Feature request: Create "MediaWikipedia" - a MediaWiki package that contain basic elements of the English Wikipedia.
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David_Hedlund renamed this task from Feature request: Create "MediaWikipedia" - a MediaWiki package that contain basic elements of the English Wikipedia to MediaWikipedia.May 13 2017, 11:33 AM
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Aklapper renamed this task from MediaWikipedia to Create a MediaWiki package for download which contain basic elements of the English Wikipedia.May 13 2017, 6:47 PM
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Hi, can you please describe the problem you would like to solve? This task obviously proposes a solution, but the problem you'd like to solve is not clear to me.

Please keep the task summary descriptive (as nobody knows what "MediaWikipedia" means and what is requested here). As the task priority reflects reality and does not cause it, I'm also resetting it.
(If you increased the priority because you plan to work on this task, please also set yourself as task assignee.)

Thanks!

David_Hedlund added a comment.May 13 2017, 8:49 PM

@Aklapper No worries, I'm ok with the lowered priority and that you reverted the title.

Hi, can you please describe the problem you would like to solve? This task obviously proposes a solution, but the problem you'd like to solve is not clear to me.

I said

people can import/export the majority of all articles from Wikipedia to their own MediaWiki instance out of the box.

The problem is that if you copy/paste an article from Wikipedia to a default MediaWiki installation it will not display the article fully functioning as it is on Wikipedia.

Aklapper added a comment.May 14 2017, 12:23 PM
In T165195#3260759, @David_Hedlund wrote:

The problem is that if you copy/paste an article from Wikipedia to a default MediaWiki installation it will not display the article fully functioning as it is on Wikipedia.

Why would you copy/paste articles from Wikipedia to your MediaWiki installation? How exactly do you "copy/paste an article"? (Again, I'd like to understand the underlying problem, not your solution - we have Special:Export, we have data dumps, we have a web api, so why would you not use those?)

David_Hedlund added a comment.May 14 2017, 2:24 PM

@Aklapper Copy/paste an article is done by copy the full source of an article and then paste it into your own MediaWiki.

  • It allows you to use any article from Wikipedia, no more errors or painful configuration.
  • Wikipedia mirrored websites only have to export Wikipedia articles to XML and import them. They do not need to do dummy copies -- which save Wikipedia a lot of bandwith.

It can also be convenient for offline Wikipedia editing

  • Allow you to work with Wikipedia offline.
  • Save bandwith for Wikipedia -- by just upload significant edits (minor edits can be done offline) with quality edit summaries.
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Aklapper added a comment.May 22 2017, 4:23 PM
In T165195#3261044, @David_Hedlund wrote:
  • It allows you to use any article from Wikipedia, no more errors or painful configuration.

You can use any article from Wikipedia on Wikipedia. If you want to use an article from Wikipedia offline, there are offline readers or data dumps available. (Maybe your "use" is not my "use" though as it is a vague term)

  • Wikipedia mirrored websites only have to export Wikipedia articles to XML and import them. They do not need to do dummy copies -- which save Wikipedia a lot of bandwith.

What are "dummy copies"? Also, saving bandwidth in this context might not be relevant - we have data dumps available.

Aklapper mentioned this in T182504: Templates not bundled with MediaWiki.Dec 9 2017, 7:03 PM
Aklapper merged a task: T182504: Templates not bundled with MediaWiki.
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Aklapper added a project: MediaWiki-Releasing.Dec 9 2017, 7:09 PM
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