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Set additional config for draft/draft talk namespace on thwiki
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Hello, Thai Wikipedia community would like to set draft and/or draft talk namespace (118, 119).

  1. wmgExemptFromUserRobotsControlExtra: add Draft and Draft talk namespace.
  2. wmgVisualEditorAvailableNamespaces: add Draft namespace.

Per consensus:วิกิพีเดีย:สภากาแฟ/อภิปราย/ปรับการตั้งค่าเนมสเปซฉบับร่าง

Thank you.

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I’d like to see the purpose clarified before we proceed.

Once this is created, Do you expect page creations (by who?) to go through a review process?

We don’t disable page creation often so I’d like to know the purpose of this and whether it will lead to that.

See which says

This configuration places an undue restriction on new contributors. Sysadmins will resist such a request unless the wiki in question (1) is prepared to handle drafts in a timely manner, (2) has a well developed editing and administrative community, and (3) has established an unusually broad consensus for the change. The first two points can be addressed by appealing to the wiki's size: the number of active editors, sysops, bureaucrats, and other functionaries should be similar to "big wikis", otherwise a very good explanation will need to be given as to why the request should be accepted. The third point can be satisfied by a carefully discussed on-wiki RFC, with the closing administrator explaining the consensus in the relevant Phabricator task; if the consensus does not look particularly strong on its face (note that there may not be any sysadmins who are able to read the local language of the wiki), the admin will have to explain why it nonetheless should be considered sufficiently broad.

Hi @RhinosF1, I and community don't want to disable non-autoconfirmed page creation. This discusssion isn't proposal about disable unregistered users's mainspace creating. We would like to change setting in draft and/or draft talk namespace.

Currently, Thai Wikipedia's unregistered and registered users can select to create mainspace or draftspace if they want.

I'm sorry if I made you misunderstand. If you have any questions, please ask.

@Geonuch: Hi,

Thanks for confirming that your wiki does not want this to lead to disabling page creation for some users.

I just wanted to check as I didn’t want to set a false hope if you did in the future.

The request seems fine by me so I will have a look over the next day if no one does it before me.

RhinosF1 renamed this task from Set draft/draft talk namespace on thwiki to Set additional config for draft/draft talk namespace on thwiki.May 18 2020, 10:15 AM

Change 597029 had a related patch set uploaded (by RhinosF1; owner: RhinosF1):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Add thwiki's draft namespace to wmgExemptFromUserRobotsControlExtra and enable VE.

RhinosF1 triaged this task as Medium priority.May 19 2020, 2:53 PM

Change 597029 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Add thwiki's draft namespace to wmgExemptFromUserRobotsControlExtra and enable VE.

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2020-05-27T23:16:32Z] <catrope@deploy1001> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: Add thwiki Draft namespace to wmgExemptFromUserRobotsControlExtra and enable VE there (T252959) (duration: 01m 06s)

RhinosF1 moved this task from Deployment to Done on the User-RhinosF1 board.

Deployed, sorry for the delay!