- Update description of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fpkHyCGX1Y (12924 views) to link to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Phabricator_Tutorial_Series (see T214522: Create tutorial videos about phabricator.wikimedia.org)
- Description already states that it is outdated and currently says to watch https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Task_and_project_management_with_Wikimedia_Phabricator.webm (which is an uncut talk in front of people, more like q&a style, plus not the best sound) which should not be linked IMO.
- Similar: Update description of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhGzsPTsCg (2075 views, same video as in previous bullet point)
- Similar: Update description of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o6aQ46bcRE (1044 views)
- Similar: Update description of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzGh83LH1Ws (1182 views)
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| Status | Subtype | Assigned | Task | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Resolved | • srodlund | T264170 Update descriptions of older outdated Wikimedia Phabricator presentations on Youtube to link to recent video tutorials | |||
| Resolved | Aklapper | T214522 Create tutorial videos about phabricator.wikimedia.org | |||
| Declined | Aklapper | T226061 Intro to Phab video: Play with local Vagrant instance of Phab and with lipsum to generate tasks | |||
| Resolved | Aklapper | T226062 Intro to Phab video: Write script and publish it | |||
| Resolved | Aklapper | T226063 Intro to Phab video: Sort out local video and audio recording and editing |
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@Aklapper I updated all but the final link since I don't have access to the Ensino Lario channel.
The solution of updating with a link to the videos on commons is a bit messy. Do you have thoughts about us delisting these two videos?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhGzsPTsCg (2075 views, same video as in previous bullet point)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o6aQ46bcRE (1044 views)
We could leave this one up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fpkHyCGX1Y and push people towards the tutorials on Commons. I'd also suggest if we don't plan on uploading the new tutorials to Youtube at least creating a Youtube friendly trailer to link out to them.
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Thanks a lot! (Ah, didn't check the sources.)
It looks like you updated the descriptions, in one case the thumbnail (interesting idea, didn't know that's possible), and except for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fpkHyCGX1Y you added "(outdated)" as a title suffix? Thanks!
The solution of updating with a link to the videos on commons is a bit messy.
In which way?
Do you have thoughts about us delisting these two videos?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhGzsPTsCg (2075 views, same video as in previous bullet point)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o6aQ46bcRE (1044 views)
Hmm, no thoughts but wondering which problem that would solve (if some other outdated videos still remained online)?
We could leave this one up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fpkHyCGX1Y and push people towards the tutorials on Commons. I'd also suggest if we don't plan on uploading the new tutorials to Youtube at least creating a Youtube friendly trailer to link out to them.
I'd also suggest if we don't plan on uploading the new tutorials to Youtube at least creating a Youtube friendly trailer to link out to them.
I would like to see the latest Phab tutorial videos uploaded to Youtube, for better exposure,
if Youtube's license options allow setting something sane (whatever that might mean - see the two licenses on any of the latest Phab tutorial videos on Commons; in the worst case this might mean 'Standard Youtube License' which is factually wrong and then explicitly link the two licenses in the video description?),
and I would keep linking to Wikimedia Commons whenever possible, as that is both the canonical source and under our control.
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RE: Delisting -- I was just thinking having fewer outdated videos would help keep traffic more focused more up to date videos.
I think we should upload them to Youtube, but I think that will be up to how you are feeling about the licenses. The only two available on Youtube ore the Youtube Standard License and the Creative Commons license.
We can certainly put notes in the description of the video linking to the canonical videos.
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Hmm... the more I think of it, the more I think it could be an interesting try (plus of course delisting does not mean deleting, just less discoverable).
I think we should upload them to Youtube, but I think that will be up to how you are feeling about the licenses. The only two available on Youtube ore the Youtube Standard License and the Creative Commons license.
@srodlund: Do you know which exact Creative Commons licenses they offer? (Sorry, I've never uploaded stuff to Youtube.) Asking as I put the video content under CC-0 and not under, for example, some CC-BY-SA version.
Using "Youtube Standard License" (whatever that means) and explicitly stating the two (more permissive) "real" licenses in the desc could also be a workaround.
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Please be aware that the license specified for media hosted on YouTube does not override the YouTube terms of service which states in part (emphasis mine):
https://www.youtube.com/static?template=terms#fb098d3e34
License to Other Users
You also grant each other user of the Service a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to access your Content through the Service, and to use that Content, including to reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works, display, and perform it, only as enabled by a feature of the Service (such as video playback or embeds). For clarity, this license does not grant any rights or permissions for a user to make use of your Content independent of the Service.
So functionally, a permissive content license on YouTube's only means that folks can reuse/remix within the scope of the tools and services provided by YouTube themselves.