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Logged out user gets Special:NewMessages
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Description

A logged out users get Special:NewMessages shown.

I expect them to see an error page saying that they need to log in
so as to see their new messages, since without a user name,
there are likely no ways to determine whose individual
new messages are meant.

In the case of the URL above [0], I saw a thread [1] from a
subpage [2] of another page [3] that I am not watching in a
language which I do not understand.

[0] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:NewMessages
[1] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Portal_talk:Hu/Openscope
[2] http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Portal_talk:Hu&offset=20091122182115#Openscope_410
[3] http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Portal_talk:Hu


Version: unspecified
Severity: minor
URL: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:NewMessages

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bz28550

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Low.Nov 21 2014, 11:28 PM
bzimport set Reference to bz28550.

IP talk pages with LQT enabled?

Nope, the abovementioned thread was from a Portal_talk: page. Portal pages are content pages serving a special set of informations in a somewhat structured (templated) way, but technically, for LQT, they're pretty normal pages afaics.

I suppose, LQT is enabled for each and every user in the wiki, including IP ones, since they should be able to contribute to discussions and make requests, although I do not remember that happening - maybe because users are asked to register, and unregistered users have little chances to anything useful than participating in discussions or correcting typos in very few pages.

I suppose, LQT is enabled for each and every user in the wiki, including IP
ones,

Marking invalid as a result.

What's invalid about this bug report?

Even IP-users should not get random messages that thy have no relation to.

(In reply to comment #4)

What's invalid about this bug report?

From comment #0:

A logged out users get Special:NewMessages shown.

Logged out users IP users, unless I'm missing something. I just tested this by logging in to MW.org and leaving my IP talk page a message. Sure enough, when I logged out, there was a notice saying I had a new message waiting. Clicking the link took me to the talk page for my IP.

Could you explain how this behavior is incorrect?

I wrote:

I suppose, LQT is enabled for each and every user in the wiki, including IP
ones,

This needs to be verified - is it so?

As reported in comment 0 above, when logged out, I saw
http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Portal_talk:Hu/Openscope
I checked the edit history of each contribution - none was made from an IP user.
So, the only remaining explanation was an IP user watching the page or the thread.
This needs to be verified - is it so ?
And is there one ?
And are all watching IP Addresses in the range that could have been assigned to my computer ?

(In reply to comment #6)

So, the only remaining explanation was an IP user watching the page or the
thread.

IP users cannot watch pages, right?

I am not sure if this should be here at this specific bug, or at Bug 40089, or maybe a completely new one. But if I open an InPrivate browsing session and visit http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:NewMessages (as an IP user), I see dunnohowmany pages of threads from all over the wiki. I’m quite sure nobody from this IP address has ever visited those talkpages. And I am able to click Mark as Read on the threads.

This just does not seem right.