Hi, according to this discussion, this task has been created. Please visit any category on ckbwiki which has member(s) with starting "ئ" (i.e. پۆل:ئەورووپا). And see the label on that category; "ء" is appeared instead of "ئ" while pages under that label are start with "ئ" (not "ء"). However, the character "ء" is not one of the characters in my language. We couldn't find a way to replace that character. So,we thought it is a bug in the system. Thanks!
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@AramBakir: Thanks for reporting this. Please always use the bug report form (linked from the top of the task creation page) to create a bug report, and fill in the sections in the template, so it is way easier to read what happens where and what you expected to happen instead. Thanks a lot.
ء is a Hamza (glottal stop) (U+0621), usually to be combined with another letter (in some languages). I wonder if the parser somehow has issues with combining the Hamza with یresulting in ئ.
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@Aklapper : I didn’t really think the problem was big enough to fill out the entire form so I wrote the report in paragraphs.
Please see تصنيف:بلدان أوروبية غربية on arwiki; Hamza poses no difficulty in classifying the members of that category.
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https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core/+/HEAD/includes/collation/CollationCkb.php might be relevant here: We fall back to Farsi.
Hmm, I don't see any bullet point that starts with ئ on that arwiki page? If you see a specific string, please post the specific spring and always be explicit - thanks!
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@Aklapper, I don't think there's a problem with my example. Let me explain further. I didn't say that members of the Arabic Wikipedia category should start with ئ or that it should start like this. I also mentioned that example from our discussion on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) because a user thought that the letter Hamza ء was mixed with ئ and for some reason only the Hamza was appeared. And I said if that's a bug in the system, then Arabic Wikipedia has the letters ا, إ, أ and should appear ء there instead of those letters, but as you can see each article is neatly placed under its own label (not ء). I didn't say the Arabic category label should start with ئ. If you still don't understand why I mentioned that Arabic Wikipedia category as an example, please read the last three comments here. Although I doubted that fawiki would be involved. However, this is a problem and must be fixed. Thank you for taking care of this task.
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Makes sense; thanks for the explanation. The bigger question is if this also happens in Farsi (because of the collation fallback) instead of Arabic.
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@Aklapper, Thank you for your understanding. I think there is no problem with fawiki. See an example: رده:افراد زنده
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Hi @Aklapper, I don't know if you remember this task, but I installed MediaWiki software on my computer yesterday. I noticed that what we see on the Central Kurdish Wikipedia in this case I did not see at all on my installed Mediawiki. That is, what I saw in my personal Mediawiki shows me exactly what I expected.
I thought the problem was with ckbwiki itself, not MediaWiki, so I searched a lot in ckbwiki's local scripts, but couldn't find anything affected this case.
Why this MediaWiki permanent link (https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:$wgCategoryCollation&oldid=5047484) specifically discusses ckb?
I really feeling confused! What do you thinking?
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Without clear steps to reproduce, version information, operating system information, browser and browser version, any reply would only be random guessing.
Why this MediaWiki permanent link (https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:$wgCategoryCollation&oldid=5047484) specifically discusses ckb?
Maybe "View History" of that page has some hints.
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Sorry, I don't know exactly what to do. I did a search through Phabricator and Gerrit and the @matmarex came up a lot around this case. I hope he has information on this.