V2C should be integrated into MW
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	Dec 18 2023, 4:13 PM

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Video2Commons ( https://video2commons.toolforge.org/ ) is an essential tool for uploading videos to Commons. It is more often broken than working properly. It should be integrated into MediaWiki, and maintained by the WMF. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Video2commons for a long list of issues.

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This tool is mainly used to upload videos from various websites (YouTube, Dailymotion) and for converting videos from a non-free format to WEBM.

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This would benefit many people, mostly non-tech savvy people and those with a low bandwidth, for whom uploading videos is very difficult.

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Yann created this task.Dec 18 2023, 4:13 PM

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The MediaWiki Upload Wizard should have a general "Upload from URL" option, importing from (free) websites is a long and tedious job. The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) could try to maintain two (2) separate MediaAiki Homload Wizards, one (1) for "Own work" files and one (1) for imported files. That, or it could try to make the selection clear at the beginning of the upload process (like it already does for Flickr files for certain users).

Community-made tools should be adopted and integrated directly into the software, it seems like the Foundation has neglected this software for years. This is also related to the "built-in video converter tool", the MediaWiki Upload Wizard should be able to directly convert non-free file formats into free file formats (.MP4 → .webm).

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In T353659#9413719, @DonTrung wrote:

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the MediaWiki Upload Wizard should be able to directly convert non-free file formats into free file formats (.MP4 → .webm).

I strongly support this suggestion.

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I am not sure, if this task is about adding the functionality of video transcoding to Upload Wizard, or if this task is about adding the functionality of upload-from-url to Upload wizard,

If it is about transcoding video files to webm, I propose to transcode to AV1 instead of VP9 as v2c does. AV1 now works in the MediaWiki software and it is better than VP9. For example you can keep HDR10 when transcoding to AV1.

Video transcoding takes large amounts of time. The Upload Wizard is basically a "watch while you upload a file and do some more input from time to time" tool. Video2commons is a "enter a video then log out and come back maybe later while v2c does its magic as a batch job that will take time but does not need user interaction" tool. Different approaches to UI/UX.

In T353659#9415574, @C.Suthorn wrote:

... Video2commons is a "enter a video then log out and come back maybe later while v2c does its magic as a batch job that will take time but does not need user interaction" tool. Different approaches to UI/UX.

Yes, and IMO, the V2C approach is better. First fill up the information, and then upload the image/video.

Sdkb renamed this task from V2C should integrated into MW to V2C should be integrated into MW.Dec 24 2023, 7:40 AM

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