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Restrict NS_FILE and NS_FILETALK edit to sysop on Korean Wikinews
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There is a consensus to restrict edit for NS_FILE and NS_FILE_TALK on kowikinews. Upload is already restricted to sysop per bug 59823, so this should be trivial to do so.


Version: wmf-deployment
Severity: normal
URL: https://ko.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4%EB%89%B4%EC%8A%A4:%EC%82%AC%EB%9E%91%EB%B0%A9&oldid=17188#.ED.8C.8C.EC.9D.BC_.EC.9D.B4.EB.A6.84.EA.B3.B5.EA.B0.84_.ED.8E.B8.EC.A7.91_.EC.A0.9C.ED.95.9C

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Reference
bz70022

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Needs Triage.Nov 22 2014, 3:43 AM
bzimport set Reference to bz70022.

gerritadmin wrote:

Change 156235 had a related patch set uploaded by Revi:
Set wgNameSpaceProtection on kowikinews

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/156235

That seems strange. . . Can you explain why this is wanted?

Even if you could find some way to justify this change, a proposal by one user and response by only one other user does not a consensus make. usually. (haven't tried google translate yet either)

although kowikinews is very small.

(~13 active users. ~19 less ~6 bots)

Maybe give another week?

In the meantime can you provide a translation of the local discussion and answer comment 2?

(In reply to Alex Monk from comment #2)

That seems strange. . . Can you explain why this is wanted?

We are currently using AbuseFilter for restricting File and File talk ns editing for sysop to prevent unnessesary edit and possible vandalism, but I thought system-wide limiting would be better.

(In reply to jeremyb from comment #3)

Even if you could find some way to justify this change, a proposal by one
user and response by only one other user does not a consensus make. usually.
(haven't tried google translate yet either)

although kowikinews is very small.

(~13 active users. ~19 less ~6 bots)

Maybe give another week?

I'm fine with giving one more week (or two, if you want.)

I'd also like to have a steward weigh in on this.

I don't know anything about the vandalism you're seeing and maybe a case could be made for File. However, I'm having trouble imagining any way to justify File_talk.

If you have a disruptive user then block them. If you have a group of meatpuppets targeting certain subjects then protect those subjects. Wholesale /Full/ protection (not semi) of an entire Talk NS is unreasonable.

Where would {{editrequest}}s go?

(In reply to jeremyb from comment #5)

I'd also like to have a steward weigh in on this.

I don't know anything about the vandalism you're seeing and maybe a case
could be made for File. However, I'm having trouble imagining any way to
justify File_talk.

If you have a disruptive user then block them. If you have a group of
meatpuppets targeting certain subjects then protect those subjects.
Wholesale /Full/ protection (not semi) of an entire Talk NS is unreasonable.

Where would {{editrequest}}s go?

Only image on kowikinews is [[n:ko:Wiki.png]] and they would request {{editrequest}} to AN.

I think that differing from a global default position of what a user can expect to be able to do, so is not ideal, and in looking at
https://ko.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=%ED%8A%B9%EC%88%98:%EA%B8%B0%EB%A1%9D/delete&uselang=en
I don't see evidence of deletions in 파일토론 namespace, and the last in 파일 namespace in February so one in 50 deletions. I think that there is overthinking in this scenario, in a community that is very small. I would suggest that this be a WONTFIX.

Request withdrawn, per comment 7.

This filter https://ko.wikinews.org/wiki/%ED%8A%B9%EC%88%98:%ED%8E%B8%EC%A7%91%ED%95%84%ED%84%B0/4 exists since February to prevent edits by non-sysops in these NSes. It was only hit once so far, as a test. I think this proves its unnecessity.

gerritadmin wrote:

Change 156235 abandoned by Revi:
Set wgNameSpaceProtection on kowikinews

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/156235