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Editing a global user page outside of meta shouldn't result in an edit to a local page
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I made an edit to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine to add a category, and was surprised to see that this edit replaced Pine's userpage with just that category (sorry Pine!). It looks like this was because Pine has a global userpage on Meta ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) that was replaced by my local edit.

This shouldn't happen. An edit to a global user page on a local wiki should result in either:
a) A warning notice explaining that this is a global user page, and that it shouldn't be edited on this wiki
b) A redirect to the user page on meta
c) The edit being redirected to meta-wiki, and taking place there
d) The edit on the local wiki being applied to the global page, rather than replacing that global page.

Please can the UI be improved/fixed here?

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Mike_Peel created this task.Oct 15 2015, 8:00 PM
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Legoktm subscribed.Oct 15 2015, 8:06 PM

a) already happens, on https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Legoktm&action=edit it says "This page currently displays a user page from another wiki. If you create a new page here, it will no longer display the other wiki′s page."

Legoktm edited projects, added GlobalUserPage; removed MediaWiki-General.Oct 15 2015, 8:06 PM
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Mike_Peel added a comment.Oct 15 2015, 8:07 PM
In T115648#1729159, @Legoktm wrote:

a) already happens, on https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Legoktm&action=edit it says "This page currently displays a user page from another wiki. If you create a new page here, it will no longer display the other wiki′s page."

OK, thanks, is this coming soon to a non-test wiki?

Legoktm added a comment.Oct 15 2015, 8:08 PM

It's been on all wikis for a while now... https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Legoktm&action=edit as a random wiki.

Ricordisamoa subscribed.Oct 15 2015, 8:14 PM
Mike_Peel added a comment.Oct 15 2015, 8:17 PM

Hmm, ok. Looking into this some more, it seems that this happened because I made the edit through HotCat, which bypasses the standard edit page. Sorry, Legoktm for doubting you here!

Mike_Peel added a comment.Oct 15 2015, 8:24 PM

Bug re-reported at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-HotCat.js#HotCat_and_global_user_pages

Mike_Peel added a project: MediaWiki-extensions-Gadgets.Oct 15 2015, 8:24 PM
Ricordisamoa removed a project: MediaWiki-extensions-Gadgets.Oct 15 2015, 8:27 PM

HotCat's fault, not the Gadget extension's.

Mike_Peel added a comment.Oct 15 2015, 8:28 PM
In T115648#1729224, @Ricordisamoa wrote:

HotCat's fault, not the Gadget extension's.

MediaWiki-extensions-Gadgets isn't the place to tag bugs with gadgets?

Krenair subscribed.Oct 15 2015, 8:29 PM

That's correct.

Mike_Peel added a comment.Oct 15 2015, 8:29 PM
In T115648#1729228, @Krenair wrote:

That's correct.

OK, that's not obvious!

Krenair added a comment.Oct 15 2015, 8:30 PM

It should go without saying. Don't bother reporting issues to developers who aren't responsible for the code you're having issues with.

Mike_Peel added a comment.Oct 15 2015, 8:36 PM
In T115648#1729242, @Krenair wrote:

It should go without saying. Don't bother reporting issues to developers who aren't responsible for the code you're having issues with.

It shouldn't go without explanation.

Legoktm added a comment.Oct 15 2015, 11:20 PM

Ok so back to the bug...

a) A warning notice explaining that this is a global user page, and that it shouldn't be edited on this wiki

Already in place, Gadgets will skip it, but we can't do much about that...

b) A redirect to the user page on meta

We could hijack the edit tab to point to meta if that's what you mean? It might be a weird UX suddenly switching wikis..maybe implementing the tabs like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Example.svg ?

c) The edit being redirected to meta-wiki, and taking place there

There are legit reasons to edit/create a local override, so I don't think this makes sense.

d) The edit on the local wiki being applied to the global page, rather than replacing that global page.

Same as c).

So the only actionable one is b)? Is it worth pursuing?

Aklapper closed this task as Declined.Oct 16 2015, 11:20 AM
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Aklapper edited projects, added WMF-General-or-Unknown; removed GlobalUserPage.

Closing as https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-HotCat.js#HotCat_and_global_user_pages is marked as "done" and closing as declined as this on-wiki territory.

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