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Given the 'start editing' dialogue for new users on page I can't edit
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Verified in Chrome 60.0.3112.10 and Firefox 53.0.3 (both linux) as logged out user, first attempt to view source (or 'edit') on the Wikimania 2017 site. Screenshot included.

Probably reproducible if you clear all cache/cookies and are a user without the appropriate privileges when opening source of such a page.

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Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. · View Herald TranscriptJun 6 2017, 7:27 PM
Aklapper added a comment.EditedJun 6 2017, 8:48 PM

So the expectation is to not show "Start editing" when the page says "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason"?

Deskana triaged this task as Low priority.Jun 7 2017, 10:36 AM
Deskana added a subscriber: Deskana.

It's very debatable whether this is good behaviour or not. On the one hand, we're telling them "anyone can edit" when they can't actually edit that page. On the other hand, a welcoming friendly introduction the first time someone tries to edit could be appreciated even if they can't actually edit that specific page.

This seems like somewhat of an edge case since, generally, people arrive on articles through search engines or through links on other articles, and the vast majority of articles are editable.

Deskana moved this task from To Triage to Freezer on the VisualEditor board.Jun 7 2017, 10:39 AM