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Unable to update URL even though API reports success
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https://tools.wmflabs.org/iabot/index.php?page=manageurlsingle&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhitparade.ch%2Fshowitem.asp%3Finterpret%253DNerina%252BPallot%2526titel%253DEverybody%2527s%252BGone%252BTo%252BWar%2526cat%253Ds

Sending post data:

action=modifyurl&urlid=23388724&overridearchivevalidation=1&archiveurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewebcitation%2Eorg%2F6IBvTspq8%3Furl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fhitparade%2Ech%2Fshowitem%2Easp%3Finterpret%253DNerina%252BPallot%2526titel%253DEverybody%2527s%252BGone%252BTo%252BWar%2526cat%253Ds

The archiveurl decodes as:

http://www.webcitation.org/6IBvTspq8?url=http://hitparade.ch/showitem.asp?interpret%3DNerina%2BPallot%26titel%3DEverybody%27s%2BGone%2BTo%2BWar%26cat%3Ds

It reports "success" however looking at the new Archive URL it didn't change and the URL log in the interface reports "Changed the archive URL to >the old URL>" which is strange because I sent a new URL in the post.

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Green_Cardamom created this task.Jul 12 2017, 12:17 PM
Restricted Application assigned this task to Cyberpower678. · View Herald TranscriptJul 12 2017, 12:17 PM
Cyberpower678 closed this task as Invalid.Jul 13 2017, 5:01 PM

The archive URL is getting sanitized. It's making the URL look nicer since it has no bearing on what loads.

Green_Cardamom added a comment.Jul 13 2017, 8:43 PM

True because WebCite drops anything beyond ?url .. and theoretically it should work if it's "+" or "%20" in the query. But what if it is a site that is not flexible these ways.

The original URL uses "+" instead of "%20":

http://hitparade.ch/showitem.asp?interpret=Nerina+Pallot&titel=Everybody%27s+Gone+To+War&cat=s

Thus, archive.is has it available as "+":

http://archive.fo/20130703190443/http://hitparade.ch/showitem.asp?interpret=Nerina+Pallot&titel=Everybody's+Gone+To+War&cat=s

But not in "%20":

https://archive.fo/http://hitparade.ch/showitem.asp?interpret=Nerina%20Pallot&titel=Everybody%27s%20Gone%20To%20War&cat=s

Or:

https://archive.fo/20130703190443/http://hitparade.ch/showitem.asp?interpret=Nerina%20Pallot&titel=Everybody%27s%20Gone%20To%20War&cat=s

This is ultimately a failing of archive.is not being flexible, but our problem also

I don't have a good solution. The problem arises later when trying to hunt down new archives and relying on the data in the url= portion. In this case it's a cite web so the original URL using "+" is retained, but not always.

Cyberpower678 added a comment.Jul 13 2017, 8:47 PM
In T170413#3437601, @Green_Cardamom wrote:

True because WebCite drops anything beyond ?url .. and theoretically it should work if it's "+" or "%20" in the query. But what if it is a site that is not flexible these ways.

The original URL uses "+" instead of "%20":

http://hitparade.ch/showitem.asp?interpret=Nerina+Pallot&titel=Everybody%27s+Gone+To+War&cat=s

Thus, archive.is has it available as "+":

http://archive.fo/20130703190443/http://hitparade.ch/showitem.asp?interpret=Nerina+Pallot&titel=Everybody's+Gone+To+War&cat=s

But not in "%20":

https://archive.fo/http://hitparade.ch/showitem.asp?interpret=Nerina%20Pallot&titel=Everybody%27s%20Gone%20To%20War&cat=s

Or:

https://archive.fo/20130703190443/http://hitparade.ch/showitem.asp?interpret=Nerina%20Pallot&titel=Everybody%27s%20Gone%20To%20War&cat=s

This is ultimately a failing of archive.is not being flexible, but our problem also

I don't have a good solution. The problem arises later when trying to hunt down new archives and relying on the data in the url= portion. In this case it's a cite web so the original URL using "+" is retained, but not always.

Every service is handled differently internally. It converts them appropriately. So for archiveis, it will preserve the formatting. If there are any cases that come up that actually results in the URL not loading, please do report those.

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