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Enable usergroup "flood" at ptwiki
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The community at ptwiki has reached a consensus for the implementation of the group, which can be added by sysops and bureaucrats.

Thanks in advance!

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To confirm google translate's interpretation:

  • User group has 1 right, bot
  • Group can be added by admins and crats
  • Group can be removed by admins, crats, and the user themselves
Restricted Application added a project: User-DannyS712. · View Herald TranscriptFri, Jul 19, 2:50 PM

@Tulsi_Bhagat sorry, edit conflict - if you want to do this just reclaim it

No problem. You can proceed. Thank you!

@Guilhermebm can you confirm this understanding?

DannyS712 moved this task from Unsorted to Next on the User-DannyS712 board.Fri, Jul 19, 2:55 PM

@DannyS712 I'll need to confirm the part about the user themselves being able to remove it. Since it's the normal behavior in other wikis, I think that's the way to go, but I'll ask. Thanks!

Teles added a subscriber: Teles.Fri, Jul 19, 4:12 PM

@DannyS712 yes, the community have confirmed the group can also be removed, but only removed by the user themselves. Thanks!

@DannyS712 sorry. The group can be added by sysops+crats, and removed by sysops, crats and the user themselves. Thanks!

Okay. Doing now

Change 524574 had a related patch set uploaded (by DannyS712; owner: DannyS712):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Add flood group to ptwiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/524574

Looks redundant. Do you have bureaucrats which are not also sysops? It'd save a line of config.

Looks redundant. Do you have bureaucrats which are not also sysops? It'd save a line of config.

And yet enwiki had an RfC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Make_userrights_self-sufficient#Add_move-related_privileges_to_Bureaucrat) that resulted in crats getting explicitly assigned rights that admins already have, and looking through the InitialiseSettings file I see, just at first glance, the following wikis explicitly (in addition to the defaults) allow both admins and crats to add:

  • arwiki - reviewer and abusefilter
  • enwikinews -flood
  • enwikivoyage -patroller
  • eswiki - rollbacker
  • enwikisource - autopatrolled
  • foundationwiki - inactive
  • frwiki - rollbacker

and so on. While I understand your point, I think that it should either be applied globally (eg on wikis where crats can add +sysop, they don't need rights specified explicitly that are already included in that group) or left to communities to decide.

@MarcoAurelio yes, we do have crats which are not sysops. Diego Queiroz is the only one, currently, but in the past there were more. Best regards!

@DannyS712 thanks for the patch!

Change 524574 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Add flood group to ptwiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/524574

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-07-22T23:42:19Z] <urbanecm@deploy1001> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: SWAT: Add flood group to ptwiki (T228521) (duration: 00m 47s)

Urbanecm closed this task as Resolved.Mon, Jul 22, 11:43 PM
Urbanecm added a subscriber: Urbanecm.

Deployed!

Thanks so much, as always @Urbanecm

Happy to help!