Actually, looks like there's 11 PageTriage templates with this wording. We should take a look and see if it's worth changing all of them / if there's consensus for it. Should perhaps change all of them or none of them, for consistency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22welcome+to+Wikipedia.+I+edit+here+too%2C+under+the+username%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns10=1

I'm neutral on the issue for now. Changing to the Twinkle templates just seems like the easy fix to the patronizing complaint. But then again, these PageTriage templates have been this way for years without complaints, so...

Thoughts?

It's not just the phrases "Hi, I edit here too as X", but also using "Welcome to Wikipedia" can be patronizing to somone who's been here for a while.

I think what would be best is if we change the notice to send the current wording if the target user page is that of a user who does not have ECP (i.e. we're deleting a relative newbie's article), and to use the standard Twinkle warning for more experienced users. This would avoid being patronizing to more experienced editors while also keeping that kind language for newer editors.

Yeah, the phrasing "Welcome to Wikipedia" is also an issue, and I agree with @Mhawk10's solution. My one suggestion would be to potentially query for 500 edits/30 days tenure manually rather than checking for ECP to account for situations where the permission was pulled or relinquished. It's super-rare, but my (albeit limited) knowledge tells me this would be about as equivalently difficult as simply checking for ECP, so no downside for addressing it.

Here's an editor that left a concern about the patronizing tone back in 2018. So while these templates have been in use for a long time, concerns about this wording have also been around for a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=875680790

In T344980#9121359, @Sirdog wrote:

Yeah, the phrasing "Welcome to Wikipedia" is also an issue, and I agree with @Mhawk10's solution.

(My 2c) We should only use these templates for non-confirmed users (the first line assumes that we do not understand the existence of other accounts of Wikipedia).

That being said, I'm not a fan of the wording of English Wikipedia's current AFD messages as well (It feels absolutist, and gives of the 'I have decided that your article is trash, fight me in this discussion' vibes). I'll be great to have some kind of middle ground which can be used for both newer users and older users.

My one suggestion would be to potentially query for 500 edits/30 days tenure manually rather than checking for ECP to account for situations where the permission was pulled or relinquished. It's super-rare, but my (albeit limited) knowledge tells me this would be about as equivalently difficult as simply checking for ECP, so no downside for addressing it.

From a technical POV, checking eithier shouldn't be a issue, but changing the wording of the template on-wiki would probably be the best/easiest way to implement this (imo) :)

In T344980#9123119, @Soda wrote:

From a technical POV, checking eithier shouldn't be a issue, but changing the wording of the template on-wiki would probably be the best/easiest way to implement this (imo) :)

I'd too urge this to be changed on-wiki (at which point, this task should ideally be closed and discussion moved on-wiki too ^^)