Provide "edit warning" for pages when someone else has just started editing
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Description

Some wiki platforms offer a nice soft-locking feature, where users are warned if
any other user has started editing the page/section they have just begun to edit
within the last [few minutes].

For instance, Moinmoin has messages of the form: "Other users will be warned
until 2005-02-11 07:11:45 that you are editing this page. Use the Preview button
to extend the locking period."

This would be moughty helpful, and would save the use of ugly {{inuse}} templates.


Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement
URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29&oldid=15484838#Avoiding_edit_conflicts

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Sj created this task.Feb 11 2005, 5:00 AM

gangleri wrote:

compare with

bug 2438: Prevent edit conflicts with "in use" warning

ui2t5v002 wrote:

(In reply to comment #1)

bug 2438: Prevent edit conflicts with "in use" warning

Aren't these duplicates?

brion added a comment.Oct 3 2005, 8:09 PM
  • Bug 2438 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

ui2t5v002 wrote:

More detailed description in Bug 2438

So are you suggesting that we provide a "View source" tab in all circumstances?
Because I frequently open mostly templates in "Edit mode" to copy and paste code
around, and this would result in those pages being left unusable in the meantime.

ui2t5v002 wrote:

(In reply to comment #5)

So are you suggesting that we provide a "View source" tab in all circumstances?
Because I frequently open mostly templates in "Edit mode" to copy and paste code
around, and this would result in those pages being left unusable in the meantime.

Please read the descriptions again. This is a warning; not an edit lock.

gwern0 wrote:

Phil: if you open a page and it warns you, and you go ahead any way, then you
are no worse off than before when you had no idea whether there was anyone else
interested or not (since many people don't use or don't know about {{inuse}}).

jeluf wrote:

We have automatic conflict resolution, a warning would be meaningless for most
users, since their edit would be merged automatically. I'd propose to close this
as WONTFIX

ui2t5v002 wrote:

(In reply to comment #8)

We have automatic conflict resolution,

which only works in some situations.

MediaWiki wrote:

There is an Ajax Show Editors extension in SVN, though it requires a schema change (an extra table). It adds a div above the edit window with currently editing users and how long it's been since they last typed in the box. Perhaps that functionality could be merged into mainstream MW?

ui2t5v002 wrote:

(In reply to comment #11)

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditWarning

Hmmm.

  • It should recognize anonymous edits, too.
  • If the "page lock" feature is implemented, we should make sure it is turned off for Wikipedia.

(In reply to comment #12)

  • It should recognize anonymous edits, too.

Should be easy to do, user_id=0 and user_name='123.456.789.012'. Unfortunately, the extension isn't in SVN, maybe the author should be contacted.

aaron added a comment.Aug 4 2008, 3:46 AM

This is too obtrusive for new users. Auto-merging and improved conflict handling is the way to go, not just saying "you shouldn't edit" or "be warned".

ui2t5v002 wrote:

This should definitely be fixed. Edit conflicts are far too obtrusive, confusing, and stressful to rely on. This is already implemented in other wikis.

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