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Netscape 8.1.2 crashes when rendering under Windows XP
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Author: D.U.Thibault

Description:
Netscape 8.1.2 crashes (just quits completely and suddenly, without triggering error
reporting) when I try to access my own discussion page. Rendering mode is Firefox (Gecko);
if I try to switch to IE (Trident), I can't even get to the Main page: Netscape remains
busy but the window isn't redrawn. Using IE, I can get to the page but the Wikipedia logo
in the top left has suspicious black areas in it, and the edit boxes seem to lose the
cursor until I alt-tab to some other application and back.

The problem is some interplay with the OS, because the same browser under Windows 2k (on a
different machine) doesn't crash or exhibit any other suspicious symptoms. Note that my
english user page doesn't suffer from this bug (nor do my wiktionary user pages, etc.). Has
there been some recent change in the fr.wikipedia wiki media version? How do I go about
pinpointing what's wrong with the machine I'm using to write this?


Version: unspecified
Severity: normal
OS: Windows XP
Platform: PC

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Reference
bz7680

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Lowest.Nov 21 2014, 9:26 PM
bzimport set Reference to bz7680.
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ayg wrote:

The MediaWiki version used by [[Wikimedia]] sites is always recently changed,
every few hours to every few days. Try using different browsers and post the
exact versions of each of those and of your OS.

Well, you can try reporting the bug to Netscape but there's maybe not a lot of hope. :)

The page looks ok here in Safari; don't have Windows to test with at present.

D.U.Thibault wrote:

Considering the weird behaviour on IE's part (IE's edit boxes also require tabbing instead of
clicking --truly bizarre), and the fact the problem is confined to the one machine, I'm
pretty sure by now this isn't really wiki's fault at all. I'll try and keep you posted of
what we find out.

rfrangi wrote:

I'm using Netscape 8.1.2 running on WindowsXP SP2. I noticed the same problem
few days ago on de.wiki and fr.wiki. Starting from today November 10th, the same
thing happens accessing it.wiki (and up to yesterday it was running fine). Since
my system configuration has not changed overnight, I think something has changed
in the mediawiki that runs it.wikipedia.

rfrangi wrote:

In particular, Netscape crashes when I access the "recent changes" on it.wiki

On de.wiki and fr.wiki it happened also while accessing normal articles.

Wasago wrote:

I have the same Problem. Accessing mainpage on de.wiki and Contact Page are no
Problem, but all normal articles cause instant crash.
I have updated IE to IE7 lately, is anyone surveying the same Problem with an "old" IE
as rendering Engine for Netscape?

D.U.Thibault wrote:

In my case IE7 was not installed yet. Accessing any fr.wikipedia page causes N8 to quit
suddenly. en.wikipedia, the en and fr wiktionaries and wikibooks, and wikimedia commons and
meta are all fine. It's just fr.wikipedia for me.

Wasago wrote:

I have returned from Netscape 8.1.2 to 8.0 Canadian and it works fine now.

Wasago wrote:

After getting annoyed with the old Canadian Version, I searched the Online
Community- Boards at Netscape. Our Problem is already known in the Netscape
Unofficial FAQ. Right now I am working with the Netscape 8.1.2 Browser WITHOUT
Wikipedia.de crashes - as I have disabled javascript for the Wikipedia.de Site.

Maybe this Thread may help you :
http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=6088.1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser

I simply opened the Mainpage (which was always possible) and right-klicked on
the Tab on Top. I chose "Show Site Controls" and disabled Javascript.

I really would like to know if it works for anyone else.

Closing as invalid since it s a regression in Netscape 8.1.2.
Disabling javascript in the browser seems to fix the "issue" :)

ayg wrote:

That it's their fault doesn't mean we shouldn't institute a workaround. Users
consistently crashing when they log on to a MediaWiki install is not good.

robchur wrote:

(In reply to comment #12)

That it's their fault doesn't mean we shouldn't institute a workaround. Users
consistently crashing when they log on to a MediaWiki install is not good.

Agreed for this case, assuming that we remove the workaround when the bug is
fixed upstream and has been fixed in release versions for a while.

ayg wrote:

*** Bug 8291 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

01736614658 wrote:

It is true that non-allowing java script on the wikipedia site solves the bug.
Question: May wikipedia become at times dysfunctional because java script has
been suspended?

ayg wrote:

No. You won't get some extra features, and it may look slightly different, but
it should degrade gracefully.

beithowen wrote:

Jan, I use Netscape 8.1.2 with WindowsXP SP2. I get the same problem of a crash
when I access de.wikipedia. I've unenabled Javascript for de.wikipedia but that
hasn't helped

Netscape is End of Life per http://browser.netscape.com/. Closing this issue as WONTFIX.