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Fix/decom multiple-subdomain wikis in wikimedia.org
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In the wikimedia.org zone, we have these cases (aside from other generic categories to deal with elsewhere):

www.commons      600 IN DYNA     geoip!text-addrs
www.meta         600 IN DYNA     geoip!text-addrs
www.nl           600 IN DYNA     geoip!text-addrs
noboard.chapters 600 IN DYNA     geoip!text-addrs
pa.us            600 IN DYNA     geoip!text-addrs

The noboard.chapters and pa.us entries seem to already have equivalent noboard-chapters and pa-us entries in DNS and wgCanonicalServers as well. The www entries are non-canonical and can probably just be removed.

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Common VCL: remove wikimedia.org subdomain HTTPS redirect exceptionoperations/puppetproduction+10 -15
Remove redirects for www.nl, noboard.chaptersoperations/puppetproduction+1 -6
remove www.nl and noboard.chaptersoperations/dnsmaster+0 -2
Remove redirects for www.(meta|commons), pa.usoperations/puppetproduction+0 -25
remove www.commons, www.meta, pa.usoperations/dnsmaster+0 -3
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BBlack created this task.Jun 17 2015, 3:24 PM
BBlack raised the priority of this task from to Needs Triage.
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BBlack added a parent task: T102824: Clean up DNS/redirects for TLS.Jun 17 2015, 3:24 PM
BBlack added a parent task: T104244: Preload HSTS.Jun 29 2015, 7:49 PM
faidon subscribed.Jul 6 2015, 5:47 PM
faidon@oxygen:~$ egrep 'www\.(commons|meta|nl)\.wikimedia.org' per-domain-count 
    126 "www.commons.wikimedia.org"
     10 "www.meta.wikimedia.org"
      1 "www.nl.wikimedia.org"
faidon@oxygen:~$ egrep 'noboard.chapters|pa.us' per-domain-count 
     25 "pa-us.wikimedia.org"
      2 "pa.us.wikimedia.org"
      2 "noboard-chapters.wikimedia.org"
      1 "noboard.chapters.wikimedia.org"
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BBlack merged a task: T105098: Certificate error on https://www.meta.wikimedia.org/ redirect.Jul 11 2015, 7:47 PM
BBlack added subscribers: Glaisher, • Tbayer.
BBlack triaged this task as Medium priority.Jul 13 2015, 5:59 PM
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BBlack moved this task from Backlog to Upcoming on the Traffic board.Jul 13 2015, 7:04 PM
BBlack mentioned this in T102814: Decom old multiple-subdomain wikis in wikipedia.org.Jul 27 2015, 12:54 PM
BBlack added a subtask: T102827: Decide what to do with *.donate.wikimedia.org subdomain + TLS.Jul 27 2015, 1:06 PM
BBlack mentioned this in T104681: HTTPS Plans (tracking / high-level info).Jul 28 2015, 6:07 PM
BBlack mentioned this in T111967: Preload HSTS for select hostnames within wikimedia.org.Sep 9 2015, 4:08 PM
BBlack added a parent task: T111967: Preload HSTS for select hostnames within wikimedia.org.
BBlack added a project: Trust-and-Safety.Sep 9 2015, 4:12 PM
BBlack added subscribers: • Philippe-WMF, Jalexander.Sep 9 2015, 4:20 PM

www.meta and www.commons I think we can just remove unilaterally at this point - they've been effectively broken for HTTPS for a while now, they were never canonical, and the traffic samples were always low. I don't think there's any real issue with pulling pa.us either, as the chapter and wiki appear dormant/closed/dead: ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Pennsylvania and https://pa-us.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page ).

@Jalexander or @Philippe-WMF - Any thoughts on the other two? The hits on the bad names here are very very low rate, but do we need to give them some notice?

  • www.nl.wikimedia.org (which should use nl.wikimedia.org)
  • noboard.chapters.wikimedia.org (which should use noboard-chapters.wikimedia.org)
gerritbot subscribed.Sep 9 2015, 7:46 PM

Change 237189 had a related patch set uploaded (by BBlack):
remove www.commons, www.meta, pa.us

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237189

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Sep 9 2015, 7:46 PM

Change 237190 had a related patch set uploaded (by BBlack):
remove www.nl and noboard.chapters

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237190

gerritbot added a comment.Sep 9 2015, 7:46 PM

Change 237191 had a related patch set uploaded (by BBlack):
Remove redirects for www.(meta|commons), pa.us

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237191

gerritbot added a comment.Sep 9 2015, 7:46 PM

Change 237192 had a related patch set uploaded (by BBlack):
Remove redirects for www.nl, noboard.chapters

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237192

gerritbot added a comment.Sep 9 2015, 10:38 PM

Change 237189 merged by BBlack:
remove www.commons, www.meta, pa.us

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237189

BBlack mentioned this in rODNSaf5b005cd24a: remove www.commons, www.meta, pa.us.Sep 9 2015, 10:39 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Sep 9 2015, 10:48 PM

Change 237191 merged by BBlack:
Remove redirects for www.(meta|commons), pa.us

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237191

BBlack mentioned this in rOPUPe1644ccc17da: Remove redirects for www.(meta|commons), pa.us.Sep 9 2015, 10:48 PM
BBlack removed a parent task: T111967: Preload HSTS for select hostnames within wikimedia.org.Sep 10 2015, 8:13 PM
Jalexander added a comment.Sep 10 2015, 8:19 PM
In T102826#1621167, @BBlack wrote:

www.meta and www.commons I think we can just remove unilaterally at this point - they've been effectively broken for HTTPS for a while now, they were never canonical, and the traffic samples were always low. I don't think there's any real issue with pulling pa.us either, as the chapter and wiki appear dormant/closed/dead: ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Pennsylvania and https://pa-us.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page ).

@Jalexander or @Philippe-WMF - Any thoughts on the other two? The hits on the bad names here are very very low rate, but do we need to give them some notice?

  • www.nl.wikimedia.org (which should use nl.wikimedia.org)
  • noboard.chapters.wikimedia.org (which should use noboard-chapters.wikimedia.org)

I think you can go ahead, I will notify them however.

BBlack mentioned this in T104735: (www.)wmfusercontent.org should respond to HTTP.Sep 14 2015, 9:04 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Sep 15 2015, 1:01 AM

Change 237190 merged by BBlack:
remove www.nl and noboard.chapters

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237190

BBlack mentioned this in rODNSb0752248cbbe: remove www.nl and noboard.chapters.Sep 15 2015, 1:02 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Sep 15 2015, 1:02 AM

Change 237192 merged by BBlack:
Remove redirects for www.nl, noboard.chapters

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237192

BBlack mentioned this in rOPUP8b56b3045b98: Remove redirects for www.nl, noboard.chapters.Sep 15 2015, 1:03 AM
BBlack closed this task as Resolved.Sep 15 2015, 1:03 AM
BBlack claimed this task.
BBlack moved this task from Upcoming to Done on the Traffic board.Sep 22 2015, 1:57 PM
BBlack closed subtask T102827: Decide what to do with *.donate.wikimedia.org subdomain + TLS as Resolved.Apr 12 2016, 3:58 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Apr 18 2016, 11:36 PM

Change 284106 had a related patch set uploaded (by BBlack):
Common VCL: remove wikimedia.org subdomain HTTPS redirect exception

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284106

gerritbot added a comment.Apr 20 2016, 5:47 PM

Change 284106 merged by BBlack:
Common VCL: remove wikimedia.org subdomain HTTPS redirect exception

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284106

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