Currently Kannada Wikipedia (kn.wikipedia.org) does not have local upload option and files are uploaded on Commons. For this reason fair use images (such as low-resolution book cover, movie poster etc.) can not be used there. On 29 March a discussion started on Kannada Wikipedia Village pump.
Restrictions
| Images | less than 2MB, 24 bit color, less than 1000 x 1000 pixel |
| Audio | less than 90 second, 44.1kHz, 192 kbps |
| Video | less than 90 seconds |
| Subject | Repo | Branch | Lines +/- | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Enable local uploads on knwiki | operations/mediawiki-config | master | +0 -1 |
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What was the outcome of that discussion on Kannada Wikipedia Village pump?
Setting project to Wikimedia-Site-requests, as this request is about settings / configuration of a Wikimedia website.
For more information about how to request these kinds of changes, please see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes - thanks!
Regards.
The WMF licensing policy resolution requires you adopt an exemption doctrine policy, in short EDP.
This EDP must satisfy US law, but also "the law of countries where the project content is predominantly accessed". In your case, exceptions must so also comply with the fair dealing Indian notion.
You have to write a policy, then add a link to it on the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Non-free_content#Wikipedia table.
To write a policy compliant with Indian law, I'd suggest you ask your community legal experts to review Sandeep Kanak Rathod, Fair Use: Comparing US and Indian Copyright Law, JURIST, 2012.
When you'll have discussed seriously and deeply the possibility of an EDP on a wiki predominantly accessed where the Indian law is applicable, if you found it's possible to adopt one, we'll then enable local uploads.
We the community members have prepared the policy, you can have a look in this link-https://kn.wikipedia.org/s/1irj
@Ananthsubray Could you link to the discussions you had to write this policy, and then the discussion to adopt it as policy?
I'm puzzled about the page history: there is no modification, only a page move.
The document seems a translation of en:Wikipedia:Image use policy, doesn't it? This is not an EDP…
Okay so I've three objections to the current document:
1. The document you translated is NOT an EDP
2. You need to create a specific EDP for Indian copyright laws, not translate the en. one
The EDP must comply both to US and Indian laws, so translate the en. one won't work. As I said before, there is a good article about the difference between US and Indian law you can use:
3. The discussions must show a grasp of understanding of these issues by the community.
Current discussions links don't show any question, remark, comment, only stamp of approvals.
1. The document you translated is NOT an EDP
maybe ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ:Non-free content or ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ:Non-free content criteria?
That seems like a copy of the enwiki policy. I have to wonder if the editors of the enwiki page have been attributed and whether the policy complies with fair dealing - the enwiki policy is based on US fair use which is broader in scope than Indian fair dealing.
Proposing to decline as T133137#2388974 and T133137#2491689 have not been addressed yet by @Titodutta. :(
@Aklapper an update, we are working on it. Some works have already been done. Just now we conducted an IRC session to discuss some issues.
@Titodutta: Any specific updates to share regarding T133137#2388974 and T133137#2491689 ?
Policy page is drafted and its under community review, I will get back to you as soon as the community review get over
@Aklapper the policy page has been prepared, you can see in the following link https://kn.wikipedia.org/s/1mdf.
@Aklapper : Any further update on this ? Policy page is created in https://kn.wikipedia.org/s/1mdf
If someone thinks that the current situation is suitable, someone (not me) could go ahead and prepare a configuration change.
@Prashasti_P Could you address the previous concerns given at T133137#2388974 and T133137#2491689?
Yes. The fair use policy (non-free content) has been created and the page is here - https://kn.wikipedia.org/s/1iqz. It defines many parameters related to fair use policy and local uploading of images, audio and video files. This page is linked to the main page where all policies are listed here - https://kn.wikipedia.org/s/1iqv
I request to enable local file upload to Kannada Wikipedia.
The rules -
Thanks for the update.
Could you summarize the differences between let's say the English Wikipedia fair use and the one you've drafted? (for example the Indian laws points you've taken in acccount)
Okay, all looks in order.
Restrictions will need to be enforced socially, as we don't have tools to reject long audio/video uploads for example.
In T133137#3166421, @Dereckson wrote:
Restrictions will need to be enforced socially, as we don't have tools to reject long audio/video uploads for example.Abusefilter? Or did you mean config side tool?
I believe Dereckson means that there isn't an option at CommonSettings/InitialiseSettings that cancels specific upload length.
Also, may I claim this task? Did anyone else want to?
Well nothing, I was under the impression DatGuy wanted to prepare config, but let's mark it unassigned so the person writing the config, DatGuy or anyone else can reassign it to theirself.
Change 350439 had a related patch set uploaded (by DatGuy):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable local uploads on knwiki
Sorry, I forgot this task existed. Pavanaja, I could make my bot attempt to enforce these restrictions through API queries if you'd like.
@Pavanaja Don't forget to add a new entry for kn to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EDP
Change 350439 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable local uploads on knwiki
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-04-26T18:23:01Z] <thcipriani@naos> Synchronized dblists/commonsuploads.dblist: SWAT: [[gerrit:350439|Enable local uploads on knwiki]] T133137 (duration: 01m 06s)