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Parameters are sometimes(?) being rearranged randomly instead of following the expected order, defined in TemplateData
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See https://ru.wikipedia.org/?diff=81786938&oldid=prev where the parameters have been rearranged to be alphabetical.

The TemplateData for this template is at the very end of this page: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Шаблон:Карточка_компании There was no paramOrder section in the TemplateData when this edit was made.

(Originally reported at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tf9ljw5nuxwo8os1).

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I think this is "just" because the TemplateData is so old it didn't have a paramOrder section (it does now), and Parsoid alphabetises it if there's no section. Note that you may need to do a null edit on the template to bring up the adjusted TemplateData from the /doc page to see that this works.

No. Example https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Шаблон:Карточка_компании
I added paramOrder https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Шаблон:Карточка_компании/doc&diff=81890433&oldid=81821672
and updated some description https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Шаблон:Карточка_компании/doc&diff=next&oldid=81890433
in articles I see the new description -> so the new paramOrder should already work
but try start to edit infobox in https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Группа_ГАЗ
you will see that the two parameter jump up "листинг на бирже" (normal) and "девиз" (deprecated)
and in the article and in the TemplateData parameters are mixed, not alphabetically.

paramOrder doesn't work
paramOrder: "company_name", "company_logo","company_type", "листинг на бирже", "foundation", .... "девиз"
but in VE: "листинг на бирже" "девиз" "company_name", "company_logo","company_type", "foundation", ....

"company_name" - main, in article used "название"-"aliases"
other English also using ru-aliases in article
this paramOrder ignore aliases or something

not in alphabetical order each
in the order in which the recorded but first all Russian-named and then English

Did you do a null edit on the template (not the /doc subpage)? If not, then it's probably still using the old TemplateData.

I can't reproduce this on enwiki. I wonder if the problem is language/script-specific.

This has been reported on enwiki: "Visual editor is rearranging infobox parameters".

Also, it's not alphabetical. It's just wrong.

Whatamidoing-WMF renamed this task from Parameters were alphabetized instead of following the expected order to Parameters were rearranged instead of following the expected order, defined in TemplateData .Dec 2 2016, 6:15 PM
Jdforrester-WMF renamed this task from Parameters were rearranged instead of following the expected order, defined in TemplateData to Parameters are sometimes(?) being rearranged randomly instead of following the expected order, defined in TemplateData .Dec 13 2016, 8:16 PM
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We've got several reports (on different wikis), but no-one can figure out what the cause is yet. :-(

Here's another example of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ishqbaaaz&diff=763332980&oldid=763328551
Image formatting parameters being moved to the bottom of the infobox, where someone would *not* expect to find the image formatting parameters. I could be wrong, but this seems to have sprung up recently. I don't recall seeing image formatting parameters moved on enwiki, but I could be wrong.

(This is my first [and probably last] time on Phabricator, so if I did anything stupid, please forgive me.)

Here's another example: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plagiocephaly&type=revision&diff=766696284&oldid=748379791 |name= is the first item in the original wikitext, and the first item in the TemplateData, but it got moved to the middle of the list.

I've just added paramOrder to the infobox that was used in both of Keilana's edits, in the hope that this will prevent the problem in practice.

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This was probably fixed by the solution to T179259.