Add support for Atikamekw
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	Jun 8 2016, 11:44 PM

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@Amqui requested support for Atikamekw in MediaWiki.

There is no fallback (we don't have support for cr, alg or aql).

English name	Atikamekw
Autonym	Atikamekw
ISO code	atj
Fallback	fr
Alphabet	latn
Direction	LTR

There is a project in Incubator.

Current status

2016-06-09: language is active on translatewiki.net, translators can start to work. We'll process further this task only when a some substantial translation amount is ready per https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translatewiki.net_languages.

2017-03-26: atj.json exported by Raymond, more translations needed: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:User_talk:Jeannette_Coocoo/Thanks_for_atj

Details

	Subject	Repo	Branch	Lines +/-
	Add support for Atikamekw	mediawiki/core	master	+13 -0

Customize query in gerrit

Revisions and Commits

rGTWN translatewiki
	rGTWNfbf8a91ba679 Add atj
rEULS extension-UniversalLanguageSelector
	rEULS3316ae94fe9c Update jquery.uls to 9b96346

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Mentioned Here: rGTWNfbf8a91ba679: Add atj
rEULS3316ae94fe9c: Update jquery.uls to 9b96346

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Dereckson created this task.Jun 8 2016, 11:44 PM

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Dereckson updated the task description. (Show Details)Jun 8 2016, 11:47 PM

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Dereckson renamed this task from Add support to Atikamekw to Add support for Atikamekw.Jun 8 2016, 11:52 PM

Change 293450 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dereckson):
Add support for Atikamekw

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/293450

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Jun 8 2016, 11:53 PM

Dereckson updated the task description. (Show Details)Jun 8 2016, 11:55 PM

See https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translatewiki.net_languages for the process.

declined > stalled, as this is still a valid task, but blocked on actual translation

Set priority to reflect current state of available localisation for this language.

Nemo_bis closed this task as Invalid.Jun 9 2016, 12:37 PM

Nemo_bis removed Dereckson as the assignee of this task.

Nemo_bis raised the priority of this task from Lowest to Medium.

In T137376#2367418, @Dereckson wrote:

declined > stalled, as this is still a valid task, but blocked on actual translation

I would like to attract the attention of @Nemo_bis of two things:

Use Phabricator as a personal statement board, to impose their views isn't constructive and not a way to achieve a goal, to organize work and solve tasks
There are actual work being done for this task, see for example commits fbf8a91b and 3316ae94

Dereckson reopened this task as Stalled.Jun 9 2016, 12:46 PM

Dereckson added a commit: rGTWNfbf8a91ba679: Add atj.

Dereckson added a commit: rEULS3316ae94fe9c: Update jquery.uls to 9b96346.

Language is now active on TranslateWiki.

Next step is to translate the core MediaWiki messages. Once 13% are translated, we'll export the localisation and process further this task.

@Nemo_bis: After an explanation has been given why a task should be valid, please do not close a task as invalid/declined again without providing any argumentation that refers to the previous explanation.
See T137376#2367662.

Please stick to the process. We don't keep tickets open for hundreds of languages awaiting translation.

@Nemo_bis: I don't see how Dereckson does not stick to the process.
Which specific item on https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translatewiki.net_languages was violated?

Nemo_bis closed this task as Invalid.Jun 9 2016, 4:53 PM

Aklapper reopened this task as Open.Jun 9 2016, 4:57 PM

Aklapper changed the edit policy from "All Users" to "Custom Policy".

Aklapper, please stop vandalising this report.

The maintainers of this component have already made it very clear that we don't track translators' todos here.

@Nemo_bis: T137376#2366573 states that this is more than "a translators' todo". Answering questions instead of ignoring them helps clarifying things, repeatedly closing tasks without providing any argumentation does not. It's disruptive and generally disrespectful to other community members who try to use Phabricator to manage their work.

As you seem to be concerned about the task's component, I've removed MediaWiki-Internationalization from this task as I'd like @Dereckson to be able to use this task to plan and manage what he works on.
If there are any further specific concerns, feel free to bring them up, without changing the task status. Thank you.

This is also not a i18n issue (it's merely a l10n task).

Nemo_bis unsubscribed.Jun 10 2016, 6:27 AM

Seriously? Please remove the restrictive edit policy on this task.

Krenair subscribed.Jun 10 2016, 7:38 AM

Aklapper changed the edit policy from "Custom Policy" to "All Users".Jun 10 2016, 11:03 AM

There is no fallback (we don't have support for cr, alg or aql).

Languages are only added to MediaWiki proper if there is a decent localisation level. This is currently around 15% of MediaWiki core. In translatewiki.net, the language currently has a localisation level of 0% for MediaWiki. We advise you (the Atikamekw community) to prioritize localisation of the user interface of MediaWiki, and attack the challenge with a few users. Translate and review each other's translations for the best result. Good luck!

This issue will be set to stalled, and updates are not needed until the inclusion requirements have been met.

Change 293450 abandoned by Siebrand:
Add support for Atikamekw

Reason:
I'm abandoning this patch set. From experience we know that localisation in many languages is started, and only few reach the inclusion criteria. Chances this patch will ever be merged are about 15% because of that. It can be re-activated when needed, or easily re-created.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/293450

Aklapper added a project: WMF-General-or-Unknown.Aug 17 2016, 8:18 AM

Change 293450 restored by Raimond Spekking:
Add support for Atikamekw

Reason:
First export from translatewiki.net was done with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/344688/ a few days ago

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/293450

Raymond changed the task status from Stalled to Open.Mar 26 2017, 8:25 PM

Raymond edited projects, added MediaWiki-Internationalization; removed WMF-General-or-Unknown.

Raymond added a subscriber: Amqui.

Raymond subscribed.

Change 293450 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@master] Add support for Atikamekw

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/293450

ReleaseTaggerBot added projects: MW-1.29-release-notes, MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2017-03-28_(1.29.0-wmf.18)).Mar 27 2017, 7:00 PM