Sometimes an existing redirect is not found in the search indexes, so VE and other tools assume it doesn't exist
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	Mannivu
	Jul 20 2016, 9:29 AM

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In itwiki we had complaints because the link editor sometimes displays redirects page as missing pages.

Try doing this:

Open https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Elitre_(WMF)/Pagina_delle_prove_VE
Edit it with VisualEditor
If you write "USA" and then try to create a wl it displays "Stati Uniti d'America" as the first choice and the redirect "USA" as the second choice
If you write "Faringe" and then try to create a wl to "Cartilagine cricoidea" (which redirects to "Cartilagine cricoide") the wanted page is listed as a missing page and the target page of the "Cartilagine cricoidea" redirect is in blue.
Select the red link and the word in text appears as a red link
Save the page and the text is now blue

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Mannivu created this task.Jul 20 2016, 9:29 AM

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Jdforrester-WMF renamed this task from VisualEditor sometimes shows redirects as missing pages in to Sometimes an existing redirect is not found in the search indexes, so VE and other tools assume it doesn't exist.Jul 26 2016, 7:13 PM

Jdforrester-WMF edited projects, added Discovery-ARCHIVED; removed VisualEditor, VisualEditor-EditingTools.

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Gehel edited projects, added Editing-team; removed Discovery-ARCHIVED.Aug 11 2022, 8:19 AM

Krinkle added a project: MediaWiki-Search.Aug 11 2022, 8:32 AM

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When it comes to the behavior of the editor, one thing has changed since 2016 – in the search suggestions, there is no longer a suggestion to add a link to the missing page if there are any other search results. You can still do that by clicking "Insert" rather than picking from the dropdown, but the option only appears if there are no search results:

I think this probably resolves most of the problem?

When it comes to the behavior of the search, the issue is unchanged, but to me it looks like an intentional feature – it's probably some sort of autocorrection or grammatical stemming.

When you search for Cartilagine cricoidea, you do not get the page https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartilagine_cricoidea in the results: (there is a message that "a page by this name exists", but that is separate from search)

https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Cartilagine+cricoidea&fulltext=1

You can only find it if you search for "Cartilagine cricoidea" with quotes, to request an exact match:

https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search="Cartilagine+cricoidea"&fulltext=1

• MPhamWMF triaged this task as Low priority.Aug 15 2022, 3:23 PM

• MPhamWMF moved this task from needs triage to search-icebox on the Discovery-Search board.

I'll go ahead and say this is resolved, per my previous comment. If you disagree, please reopen and say what is the expected behavior.

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Sometimes an existing redirect is not found in the search indexes, so VE and other tools assume it doesn't exist
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