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Allow edits to proficiency levels for non-localised languages
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There are many languages accounted for by {{#babel:}} whose text is still in English. One of the conveniences of the old Babel template is ease of editing the proficiency levels from Wikipedia (although I agree that using the parser function prevents redundancy.)

Is there a way to edit proficiency level texts for languages that are not accounted for by TranslateWiki (e.g. Gaddang, which is a Philippine language I am a speaker of?) I was told in the Talk page for Babel in en Wikipedia that all changes need to be centrally agreed upon.

Thank you for your time.

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Autacoid created this task.Aug 21 2017, 10:59 AM
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Nikerabbit added subscribers: Amire80, Nikerabbit.Aug 21 2017, 1:53 PM

The problem is that even though if we add translations to the Babel extensions, as far as I know MediaWiki does not make them available for languages that are not supported in the interface. This seems to be an oversight and regression of some changes in the past.

I will merge patches against the Babel repository i18n files adding new translations for new languages if the language code is valid and correct and translations look correct markup-wise.

Alternatively, if one lacks technical skills to do a patch, just providing the translations in a Phabricator task also works.

The messages that need translations are https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Babel/blob/master/i18n/en.json#L16-L29 (note that English should be replaced with the autonym of the language of the translations).

But as I wrote above, this doesn't do anything until the bigger problem is fixed.

Nemo_bis subscribed.Aug 21 2017, 2:52 PM
Autacoid added a comment.EditedAug 22 2017, 5:36 AM

@Nikerabbit
That's a shame. Can I still make a .json for languages I intend to translate in the i18n folder, anyway?
Thanks for the heads-up about this; I had no idea that only MediaWiki-supported languages would work with the Babel extension. I thought it was just an issue of there being no file for the parser function to call.

Nikerabbit added a comment.Aug 22 2017, 8:46 AM

I am pretty sure it used to work. Obviously the current system is intelligent enough to not load messages in a language that cannot be used as an interface language. Babel here is an exception. I will accept translations like I wrote above.

Amire80 moved this task from Backlog to Bugs on the MediaWiki-extensions-Babel board.Nov 28 2017, 11:39 AM
Iniquity added a project: I18n.Jan 28 2023, 12:34 PM
Iniquity subscribed.Jan 28 2023, 1:19 PM

@Amire80, @Nikerabbit Hey! Do you think that a separate task is needed to fix work with languages in MediaWiki?

Amire80 added a comment.Jan 28 2023, 1:57 PM
In T173700#8566620, @Iniquity wrote:

@Amire80, @Nikerabbit Hey! Do you think that a separate task is needed to fix work with languages in MediaWiki?

What do you mean by "work with languages"?

Iniquity added a comment.Jan 28 2023, 1:58 PM
In T173700#8566634, @Amire80 wrote:
In T173700#8566620, @Iniquity wrote:

@Amire80, @Nikerabbit Hey! Do you think that a separate task is needed to fix work with languages in MediaWiki?

What do you mean by "work with languages"?

Allow MediaWiki to use for localization languages that are not represented in the interface.

Winston_Sung moved this task from Untriaged to Language data and databases on the I18n board.Aug 9 2023, 12:46 PM
Winston_Sung moved this task from Language data and databases to Translation difficulties on the I18n board.Aug 10 2023, 9:06 AM
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