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Talk overlay "issues" are not visible in A/B test
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Ambox templates are used on pages other than the main namespace - notably template, categories and talk to provide information to editors.

For example talk pages:

When bucketed with the new treatment
The issues are not accessible.

It also seems our recent changes have caused a regression with the display of these issues. Note well that this regression was fixed in T199005#4409931.

acceptance criteria

  • Restore the "about this page" link for talk and category namespace. A/B test should not apply here.
  • Do not render issues if their html is an empty string.
  • Make it clear in the code that this code should be retained post A/B test

qa steps

  • Ensure both A and B groups are accessible for In one treatment the "page issues" link renders under the heading, and in the other the banner should be visible and clickable
  • Check that on "Category:Use_American_English_from_January_2014", "Talk:Sandwich" and "Talk:Pharmacovigilance" show a "About this page" link under the title regardless of whether you are in groups A or B of the A/B test.

sign off notes

As part of sign off, we'll want to work out the long term plan for dealing with these type of amboxes. Options involve keeping both versions around; redesigning these amboxes or displaying them (despite the impact on appearance)

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Jdlrobson triaged this task as High priority.Jul 6 2018, 10:19 PM
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@alexhollender we may want to investigate redesigning these. This bug is just about restoring the old behaviour to avoid a regression. Feel free to open a new task to think about that.

Change 444745 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jdlrobson; owner: Jdlrobson):
[mediawiki/skins/MinervaNeue@master] Talk page 'issues' are not subject to A/B test

Change 444746 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jdlrobson; owner: Jdlrobson):
[mediawiki/skins/MinervaNeue@master] Don't render blank issues

Change 444746 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/skins/MinervaNeue@master] Don't render blank issues

Jdlrobson renamed this task from Regression: Talk overlay "issues" do not show to Talk overlay "issues" are not visible in A/B test.Jul 9 2018, 10:03 PM
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Dropping priority now regression part of this task has been addressed.

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ovasileva set the point value for this task to 2.Jul 10 2018, 4:23 PM
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Change 444745 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/skins/MinervaNeue@master] Talk page 'issues' are not subject to A/B test

Jdlrobson assigned this task to alexhollender.

This code is on reading web staging.

This is working as expected.

@Jdlrobson regarding design improvements — do you think it would be appropriate to give these the same visual treatment as page issues? It seems like they are basically the same thing, just on non-main namespace pages. Also, do we need to think about how people can access them from the non-Wiki version of the Talk page?

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@alexhollender ideally yes although Olga has already said this is all out of scope for the issues project. We would want to do a similar Jan style audit of all the templates before starting that adventure.

ovasileva reassigned this task from ABorbaWMF to Ryasmeen.Jul 12 2018, 5:41 PM
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@Jdlrobson: So I see now has "About this Page" link and it takes me to issues page and there is no empty rows on that issues page.

I also checked that when I go to, there is this banner about issues regarding that page and it takes me to the issues page.

But, I have no idea about how to test it for different user groups for A/B testing, I tried by clearing the session with localStorage.clear(); sessionStorage.clear() in an attempt to get bucketed as a different user group, but every time I got the banner not the link. So not sure, if I am doing it right.

Hey @Ryasmeen has an A-B test running on the main namespace with 50% bucketing.
To get bucketed you can open a link in a new tab/incognito window
Bucket 1:

Bucket 2:

Does that help?

ABorbaWMF moved this task from Backlog to Ready on the Audiences-QA board.

Okay, this time I finally got bucketed to get "page issues" link rendered under the heading. So marking it as verified.

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ovasileva closed this task as Resolved.Jul 30 2018, 8:39 AM

looks good

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