Hi, all
I'm initiating the process of enabling Kumyk transliteration for the Kumyk incubator (https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kum), with the following qualities:
— Cyrillic-to-Latin only
— able to write articles using Latin also
Here is a PHP code on github https://github.com/qumuq-til/cyrillic-to-latin
Please help with any further steps required to implement the code. I do not know how to proceed from now on.
@TJones, your help is also much needed.
Thank you
Arsen
Hi @Arsenekoumyk, thanks for taking the time to report this! Is this about MediaWiki-Language-converter ?
@Arsenekoumyk: Are you still working on this task? Just checking as you set yourself as assignee.
Strongly oppose. Kumyk writing is based on the Cyrillic alphabet. The Latin alphabet project of 1991 remained as just a project and hasn't been officially adopted anywhere. The author of this request should have spent more time on the development of the Kumyk WP in Incubator — this is a much more important issue than the Latin alphabet that none of the Kumyks use. Here is the site of the Kumyk Scientific and Cultural Society in the Kumyk language with a huge number of materials: http://kumukia.ru/adabiat/index.php You will not find any Latin there. Moreover, the Language Committee will receive exactly the same conclusion from any scientist specializing in the Kumyk language. Latin script is a private initiative of a small group of people that has nothing to do with the realities of the literary written Kumyk language.
Wow, two-year request got some traction.
I won't answer to this nonsense, cos Soul_Train is an admin with a lot of bias and rich history of abusing admin-power, where things are against his personal outlook.
But this request isn't getting much of traction anyway. If it becomes necessary we'll do the coding or whatever required ourselves.
Cheers
Hi, @Arsenekoumyk,
I'm sorry this hasn't moved in almost two years; I don't think I can help too much beyond what I've already shared with you. I was never an expert on language converter, and I believe that @cscott and team have been making some big changes, which I have not been following. Maybe someone else can help you figure out how to make things get moving.
hello, @TJones
thanks a lot for the initial help and suggestions!
you certainly contributed much more than 99.9% of those who should be concerned 10k times more :)
and some even deliberately stalled the development of our wikiproject more than a year ago like that one above.
so, there wasn't any reference to you when I wrote about traction.
huge thanks!
First, it's a lie. You will not be able to prove this in any of the projects in which I was or at the moment hold the administrator access — namely in the Buryat, Bashkir, and Lezgi Wikipedia.
Second, moving to personal attacks instead of trying to prove the need to use the Latin alphabet in a language that is based exclusively on the Cyrillic alphabet does not add arguments to your position, rather the opposite.
Firstly, Soul_Train, you may calm down and stop proving yourself by stalking me, I'm retired on Wiki.
Secondly, exclusivity of writing systems isn't up to you, behaving like admin-stalin doesn't change that. So when you make public claims firstly check whether you're in a right position to do so by having a look at some online catalogues, or whether there are any books published with Latin-based script, perhaps.
I'll not do it for you cos I don't think you're worthy, sorry.
So, Arsenekoumyk obviously cannot provide evidence of the need to enabling the instrument of transliteration for the Kumyk language. Can we expect more from an indefinite locked puppet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AArsenekoumyk
Therefore, I ask to close this Task.
@Soul_Train
you misunderstand as always.
I wouldn't do it for you, cos you're unworthy for any argument, as you do not seek but self-assertion, and virtual power.
also, I was locked for allowing to use my IP and laptop for a friend of mine, but I was partly retired even beforehand, and besides was locked immediately for that mistake.
unlike you lot on Russian wiki, where admins officially have many puppet accounts (like yourself) and teach the same other editors, and make a mockery of Wiki by doing things based on offline parties, friendships and biases.
so look in the wiki-mirror, my dear follower.
Hello,
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