Mon Wiktionary not listed in "In other languages" sidebar section (interwiki panel)
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	Octahedron80
	Jun 7 2021, 12:22 PM

Description

The (emerging) Mon Wiktionary (mnw.wiktionary.org) wants its entries to be visible in other Wiktionary via Cognate extension.

Problem:

Cognate extension is currently active on Mon language Wiktionary. Mon language Wiktionary entries are however not visible in other Wiktionary instances (they do not appear in the interwiki panel).

Example:

Other Wiktionary entries are visible in the interwiki panel of mnw Wiktionary:

https://mnw.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%80%E1%81%A0%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA

mnw Wiktionary entries are however not visible in other Wiktionary instances:

Adding the interwiki code manually via [[mnw:ဘာသာမန်]] works fine. The Mon (mnw) link shows up as "ဘာသာ မန်":

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%98%E1%80%AC%E1%80%9E%E1%80%AC%E1%80%99%E1%80%94%E1%80%BA

BDD
GIVEN a page exists on Mon language Wiktionary (mnw.wiktionary.org)
AND other Wiktionary instances B and C have an entry with the same name
THEN the Mon language Wiktionary (mnw.wiktionary.org) page should be linked in B's and C's interwiki section (the other way around works already)

Acceptance criteria:

Open questions:

Have we checked if Mon Wiktionary was added as a site to the Cognate db?

Original:

Mon Wiktionary (mnw.wiktionary.org) is official online for some time.
I noticed that there is no Mon link appearing in other language's interwiki panel.
For example [[ကၠိက်]], At mnw, it displays other links well.
But at other languages e.g. en, th, zh etc, the Mon link does not show anywhere.
Please fix this.

Related Objects

Mentioned In: T323563: Lombard Wiktionary unreachable from the other Wiktionaries
Mentioned Here: T259360: Cognate doesn't properly create interwiki links for Shawiya Wiktionary (shy.wiktionary.org)

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Octahedron80 created this task.Jun 7 2021, 12:22 PM

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It (doesn't) appears itself; I can't reproduce.

Check this
https://mnw.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%80%E1%81%A0%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA
You see six links on the left, don't you?

And then check these:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%80%E1%81%A0%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA
https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%80%E1%81%A0%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA
https://ko.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%80%E1%81%A0%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA
https://lo.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%80%E1%81%A0%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA
https://th.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%80%E1%81%A0%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA
https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%80%E1%81%A0%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA
The Mon link (mnw) does not display. (It would be seen as "ဘာသာ မန်")

However, the manual interwiki code works fine. But we do not want to add mnw code on every wikis.

This is actually related to the Cognate extension that is used by Wiktionaries.

Octahedron80 added a project: All-and-every-Wiktionary.Jun 7 2021, 12:56 PM

This does not affect All-and-every-Wiktionary hence removing tag.

Aklapper renamed this task from Mon Wiktionary link doesn't show in other's interwiki panel to Mon Wiktionary not listed in "In other languages" sidebar section (interwiki panel).Jun 7 2021, 1:15 PM

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Maintenance_bot added a project: Wikidata.Jun 7 2021, 1:46 PM

I'm is trying to solve these problems, but I'm not good at using wiki and I have a problem. I'm the only one trying to write on Mon Wiktionary and Mon Wikipedia right now, the my efforts on Mon Wiktionary there are now 1530 dictionary articles. Mon Wiktionary not listed in other languages sidebar section interwiki panel we need your help to resolve this issue thank you very much.

@Manuel @amy_rc Could you have a look at this?

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@Lydia_Pintscher: Do we know if Mon Wiktionary (mnw.wiktionary.org) was added as a site to the Cognate db? Who can we ask about this?

Ninjastrikers subscribed.Jun 8 2021, 2:03 PM

@Ladsgroup ^ do you know?

It should be automatic during the wiki creation. Is this wiki new? We had a similar issue with shywktionary a while back (T259360). I can take a look.

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-06-09T03:01:16Z] <Amir1> mwscript extensions/Cognate/maintenance/populateCognateSites.php --wiki=aawiktionary --site-group wiktionary (T284444)

Before:

wikiadmin@10.64.48.111(cognate_wiktionary)> select * from cognate_sites where cgsi_dbname = 'mnwwiktionary' limit 5;
Empty set (0.00 sec)

wikiadmin@10.64.48.111(cognate_wiktionary)> select * from cognate_sites where cgsi_dbname = 'shywiktionary' limit 5;
+---------------------+---------------+----------------+
| cgsi_key            | cgsi_dbname   | cgsi_interwiki |
+---------------------+---------------+----------------+
| -210957740613563972 | shywiktionary | shy            |
+---------------------+---------------+----------------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

wikiadmin@10.64.48.111(cognate_wiktionary)> Bye

After:

wikiadmin@10.64.48.111(cognate_wiktionary)> select * from cognate_sites where cgsi_dbname = 'mnwwiktionary' limit 5;
+----------------------+---------------+----------------+
| cgsi_key             | cgsi_dbname   | cgsi_interwiki |
+----------------------+---------------+----------------+
| -3056829144686984404 | mnwwiktionary | mnw            |
+----------------------+---------------+----------------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

Let me see if that fixes the problem