The name of ns 5 is currently " Pembicaraan Wiktionary: ".

Change the site name from "Wiktionary bahasa Indonesia" to "Wikikamus bahasa Indonesia"

You may also want to edit https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitetitle and https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Tagline

The former "Sitetitle" contains "{{SITENAME}}".

I edited the latter "Tagline" but it does not seem to be used in any way.

I agree to change the logo as outlined above.

I however do not agree with change of the namespace from "Wiktionary" to "Wikikamus", because the ns 4 is already broken for all wikis, and the requested change will worsen the mess. A namespace should NOT be named "Wikipedia", "Wiktionary", "Wikikamus" or similar. Maybe I will make a proposal about this one day.

In T341175#9014062, @Taylor wrote:

The former "Sitetitle" contains "{{SITENAME}}".

I edited the latter "Tagline" but it does not seem to be used in any way.

I agree to change the logo as outlined above.

I however do not agree with change of the namespace from "Wiktionary" to "Wikikamus", because the ns 4 is already broken for all wikis, and the requested change will worsen the mess. A namespace should NOT be named "Wikipedia", "Wiktionary", "Wikikamus" or similar. Maybe I will make a proposal about this one day.

What do you mean by the "mess"? Can you give some example, please?

• The fact that the namespace 4 has different names on different project types of same language makes sharing templates more difficult.
• The fact that the namespace 4 has same name as the site causes confusion. People are trying to create articles in the ns 4 assuming that ns "Wikipedia" is the obvious choice for wikipedia articles. People don't understand it's purpose. This is happening on essentially all wikis, last but not least on Indonesian wikipedia. Are other namespaces such as "Template:" NOT part of Wikipedia too?
• The namespace 4 has most aliases and causes most trouble and confusion. On many wikis we have page titles like Wiktionary/Wiktionary/Wiktionary/Project/Project.
• On wikidata it is difficult to name an item linked to pages in ns 4 because it has many names even in one language. Using the generic "Project:" is possible but it will NOT show like that on any wiki.

In T341175#9007995, @Superpes15 wrote:

Hi @Bennylin I only see the discussion about the name change in your link! Could you please open a new thread? Thanks!

Done:
https://id.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Warung_Kopi&oldid=1022195#Klarifikasi

Change 945799 had a related patch set uploaded (by Anzx; author: Anzx):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] idwiktionary change wgSiteName, wgMetaNamespace and add project namespace alias

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/945799

Change 945799 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] idwiktionary change wgSiteName, wgMetaNamespace and add project namespace alias

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/945799

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-07T13:41:48Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Started scap: Backport for [[gerrit:945799|idwiktionary change wgSiteName, wgMetaNamespace and add project namespace alias (T341175)]]

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-07T13:43:10Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> urbanecm and anzx: Backport for [[gerrit:945799|idwiktionary change wgSiteName, wgMetaNamespace and add project namespace alias (T341175)]] synced to the testservers mwdebug2002.codfw.wmnet, mwdebug2001.codfw.wmnet, mwdebug1002.eqiad.wmnet, mwdebug1001.eqiad.wmnet, and mw-debug kubernetes deployment (accessible via k8s-experimental XWD option)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-07T13:51:00Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Finished scap: Backport for [[gerrit:945799|idwiktionary change wgSiteName, wgMetaNamespace and add project namespace alias (T341175)]] (duration: 09m 12s)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-07T13:51:34Z] <urbanecm> [urbanecm@mwmaint1002 ~]$ mwscript namespaceDupes.php idwiktionary --fix --add-prefix=BROKEN # T341175

Change 946555 had a related patch set uploaded (by Anzx; author: Anzx):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] update idwiktionary logo

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/946555

Change 946555 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] update idwiktionary legacy vector logo

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/946555

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-07T20:14:21Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Started scap: Backport for [[gerrit:945803|ThreadItemStore: Ignore duplicates caused by duplicate executions (T323080 T341811)]], [[gerrit:946616|Update wikisource wordmarks and taglines (T341255)]], [[gerrit:946555|update idwiktionary legacy vector logo (T341175)]]

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-07T20:15:45Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> urbanecm and jdlrobson and anzx and matmarex: Backport for [[gerrit:945803|ThreadItemStore: Ignore duplicates caused by duplicate executions (T323080 T341811)]], [[gerrit:946616|Update wikisource wordmarks and taglines (T341255)]], [[gerrit:946555|update idwiktionary legacy vector logo (T341175)]] synced to the testservers mwdebug2002.codfw.wmnet, mwdebug1002.eqiad.wmnet, mwdebug1001.eqiad.wmnet,

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-07T20:24:43Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Finished scap: Backport for [[gerrit:945803|ThreadItemStore: Ignore duplicates caused by duplicate executions (T323080 T341811)]], [[gerrit:946616|Update wikisource wordmarks and taglines (T341255)]], [[gerrit:946555|update idwiktionary legacy vector logo (T341175)]] (duration: 10m 22s)

Change 946666 had a related patch set uploaded (by Anzx; author: Anzx):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Update idwiktionary old vector logo

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/946666

Change 946666 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Update idwiktionary old vector logo

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/946666

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-08T13:08:10Z] <taavi@deploy1002> Started scap: Backport for [[gerrit:946645|Update piwiki legacy vector logo (T305950)]], [[gerrit:946666|Update idwiktionary old vector logo (T341175)]]

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-08T13:09:41Z] <taavi@deploy1002> anzx and taavi: Backport for [[gerrit:946645|Update piwiki legacy vector logo (T305950)]], [[gerrit:946666|Update idwiktionary old vector logo (T341175)]] synced to the testservers mwdebug1002.eqiad.wmnet, mwdebug2001.codfw.wmnet, mwdebug2002.codfw.wmnet, mwdebug1001.eqiad.wmnet, and mw-debug kubernetes deployment (accessible via k8s-experimental XWD option)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-08-08T13:18:59Z] <taavi@deploy1002> Finished scap: Backport for [[gerrit:946645|Update piwiki legacy vector logo (T305950)]], [[gerrit:946666|Update idwiktionary old vector logo (T341175)]] (duration: 10m 48s)