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SectionTranslation doesn't warn the user that page already exists, when existing target page title is given
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Description

There are two different user behaviors that can lead to this issue:

  1. Behavior 1: “I trust the system” - User trust system but MT suggests a title that already exists for something else
  2. Behavior 2: “I know better” - Use changes the. title to something they think is better but user doesn’t know what already exists

I believe we need different UX solutions

Here, we intend to use a similar solution as the one we use for desktop translation.

Warning for already existing page on desktop

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Event Timeline

Pginer-WMF triaged this task as Medium priority.May 29 2024, 7:48 PM
Pginer-WMF moved this task from Backlog to Mobile editor on the SectionTranslation board.
Pginer-WMF added subscribers: ngkountas, Pginer-WMF.

Thanks for reporting, @hgzh.
We need to investigate under which circumstances this can happen.

The translation of the lead section should be possible in the future (T345845) but providing adequate guidance and avoiding the unexpected __LEAD_SECTION__ placeholder.

Steps to reproduce would be useful. Per the current design the tool shouldn't even offer this option.

@PWaigi-WMF given that: 1) the option to translate a lead section is not even an option right now -which makes the issue hard to experience-, 2) we have a plan (T345845) to support lead section translation for existing target articles -which will be the right opportunity to find a fix any related issue- and 3) we don't have steps to reproduce the issue, I'm suggesting to remove this task from our current sprint. We can revisit it and monitor the situation, once we deploy the code for T345845, or at least get some steps to reproduce.

Given that both edits linked in the task description have the tag "mobile edit", I used the Content Translation tool on my mobile bowser and could easily reproduce the bug @ngkountas. There's definitely an option to translate the lead section. Detailed steps to reproduce:

  • Open Special:ContenTranslation while using the mobile Version of Wikipedia (I didn't check if the same issue also exists on desktop)
  • Choose an article which already exists on your target wiki
  • Make sure the translated title corresponds to the existing article title on your target wiki
  • Translate the lead section
  • Publish the translation
  • The translated lead section appears below the existing article content

Example:

Additional bug: The mobile translation interface offers machine translations even though this should be disabled on German Wikipedia (and is disabled using the desktop version of Special:ContentTranslation).

Thank you a lot for all the information @Johannnes89! I have already created a new task about the issue with having machine translation available on mobile on German Wikipedia (T395422), which will be worked on soon. Regarding the other issue you described, about lead section translation I'll discuss it with our team and determine our next steps. I'll follow up here, once a decision is made.

ngkountas renamed this task from SectionTranslation inserts translated lead section with __LEAD_SECTION__ title at the end of an article that already has a lead section to SectionTranslation doesn't warn the user that page already exists, when existing target page title is given .Jul 31 2025, 9:54 AM
ngkountas updated the task description. (Show Details)

This task is not yet ready to be worked on, since the required designs are not yet available. Moving the task back to the "Backlog" and adding the "Design" tag for visibility.