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Support real-time collaborative editing
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Author: regress

Description:

WikiMeet - Real-Time Concurrent Editing

WikiMeet is a blend of the Wiki philosophy with the productivity potential of
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoonEdit MoonEdit] and the grace of
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubEthaEdit SubEthaEdit].

Being able to see the changes that are happenning in real-time in a rich-text
editor would push the wiki philosophy in a new direction. While admittedly, it
would often be distracting for large-scale sites with many users editing at
once, it is ideal for many situations.

Examples:
*A blending between chatting and wiking. Rather than discussing changes in one
window and then implementing them in another, it would be a huge time saver to
both discuss and implement the changes ont he wikipage itself.
*Coding together through this system would in many cases provide a huge boost in
productivity.
*Collaborative writing - In terms of writing books or papers, being able to see
these changes in real time is crucial.
*Online collaborative-notes for classes. As the instructor is lecturing, the
students can create and organize their notes, see the changes and notes the
other students are creating, etc. At the end of the class, the result should be
an impressive document covering all the relevant material discussed in that session.

Real-time is the key here. Possible implementation methods include an ajax
front-end with a java backend, active-x (yech), flash, or some other as yet
unnamed method.

It should be built as an extension to the current mediawiki project, as an
optional method for editing the text, ie.

Edit:
*View other's edits in real-time
*Edit alone

So we don't alienate people who feel uncomfortable or annoyed with this
methodology, yet allow those who would take advantage of the feature to do so
without jumping through additional hoops.


Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement
URL: http://intcomm.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/RealTimeCooperativeEditingSystemsPaper

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bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Medium.Nov 21 2014, 8:18 PM
bzimport set Reference to bz1898.

ui2t5v002 wrote:

"Rather than discussing changes in one window and then implementing them in another"

There would then be no record of the discussion?

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

It's not exactly what you want, but on [[fr:]] they use a JavaScript tool that lets you
previsualise your changes pretty fast and easily, without having to submit the changes to the
servers first (preview button). But it does not work in real-time, so this is just a minor note.

As a first step, it would at least be nice for the edit page, after (say) 15
minutes, to check with the server and see if the page has already been edited.
If it has been edited, the page could then automatically display a note and
diff, so that the user will know beforehand about the edit conflict and not make
things worse by continuing to make changes. The ping interval should be long
(and probably configurable), so that the server doesn't get bogged down by a
bunch of users who forgot they had that other window open. :)

(In reply to comment #4)

http://hackpad.posterous.com/live-editing-mediawiki-with-hackpad looks fixed
for me

Have you tried it? Well its a step in the right direction, I wouldn't exactly call it usable by the general public [or perhaps it just sucks on my browser]. But really this is a dupe of bug 4427

This isn't fixed in any real sense. Re-opening.

(In reply to comment #5)

Have you tried it? Well its a step in the right direction, I wouldn't exactly
call it usable by the general public [or perhaps it just sucks on my browser].
But really this is a dupe of bug 4427

That bug would be a duplicate of this one, if anything. This bug came first.

  • Bug 4427 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
epriestley closed this task as Resolved by committing Unknown Object (Diffusion Commit).Mar 4 2015, 8:24 AM
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Aklapper subscribed.

Accidental clash. Known issue. Reopening; Sorry for the noise.

nshahquinn-wmf renamed this task from Provide a real-time collaborative editing system to Support real-time collaborative editing.May 25 2015, 12:53 PM
nshahquinn-wmf set Security to None.

This is proposed for the 2016 Wikimedia Developer Summit: {T112984: Real Time Collaborative Editing}.

HiveJS, the most recent Etherpad fork, is reportedly designed to be used in ways such as this (like being integrated with VisualEditor). http://hivejs.org/

Aklapper changed the subtype of this task from "Task" to "Feature Request".Feb 4 2022, 12:24 PM
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