Author: sumanah

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<sumanah> ok, Coren, do you think this complaint is also obsolete?
<sumanah> "You get strange messages and can't find any information
<sumanah> on them, e.g. this one: "Your user rights were changed by Andrew
<sumanah> Bogott. You are now a member of this group: shell. Learn more". By
<sumanah> clicking onto it, you get a list of permissions: "loginviashell".
<sumanah> There is a red link pointing to "Wikitech:Shell". The user is
<sumanah> confused."
<Coren> sumanah: That's because gerrit kinda sucks; but IIRC there is a bug open to integrate the two.
<Silke_WMDE> Coren, I sometimes read stuff about worse db performance in TL than on the toolserver. It's hard for me to tell if they are right complaining. How do you see this?
<Coren> sumanah: That's still accurate but - honestly - I would expect that anyone who intents to login via shell would understand what the 'loginviashell' permission might be for. :-)
<sumanah> I don't think so
<sumanah> I think this is one of those "you think this is obvious" things
<Coren> Silke_WMDE: All the cases I've seen to date are people who didn't understand the need for using indexes. :-)
<Silke_WMDE> sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt - you were still on the other question
<sumanah> part of what makes a polished system is fewer redlinks :-)
<YuviPanda> plus write access to replicas is slower than tools-db (we should document that somewhere if we haven't)
<sumanah> YuviPanda: ooh, maybe file a quick bug to add that doc?
<DGarry> sumanah, Coren: I see the middle ground on this. I think Coren is mostly right, but that improving by removing redlinks and replacing with good documentation is important. However, where does that fit on a list of priorities? Quite low, I'd imagine.
<Coren> sumanah: Feel free to suggest clearer text for newbies; It's a Wiki™ :-) But I'd be hard pressed to find something clearer than "You've been given shell access." :-)
<sumanah> fair.
<sumanah> I think making Wikitech:Shell *not* a redlink would be good

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