Add flood/Flooders group on Officewiki
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	• Mattflaschen-WMF
	Jan 8 2015, 9:36 PM

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@Whatamidoing-WMF requested a Flood group on Officewiki (for humans to assign themselves the 'bot' right as needed). It exists on Wikidata (others, too, I think).

See T86201: I can't 'thank' a bot user for edits made with HotCat on some projects.

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	Subject	Repo	Branch	Lines +/-
	Add ability for OfficeWiki sysops to add and remove flood group rights from themselves.	operations/mediawiki-config	master	+2 -0
	Add Flooders group on Officewiki	operations/mediawiki-config	master	+3 -2

Customize query in gerrit

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Mentioned In: rOMWC9a869948c0fb: Add Flooders group on Officewiki
Mentioned Here: T86201: I can't 'thank' a bot user for edits made with HotCat on some projects

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• Mattflaschen-WMF created this task.Jan 8 2015, 9:36 PM

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Aklapper triaged this task as Medium priority.Jan 8 2015, 10:53 PM

Liuxinyu970226 subscribed.Jan 9 2015, 12:51 AM

Since officewiki is a private wiki, should we add this group to $wgGroupsAddToSelf and $wgGroupsRemoveFromSelf for all users (and addable/removable by sysops/crats). Does that make sense or should we just use the usual configuration (only modifiable by sysops/crats)?

I don't know. Only modifiable by bureaucrats is more conservative, so I'll do that unless it's clear we want to go the other way.

In T86237#978379, @Mattflaschen wrote:

I don't know. Only modifiable by bureaucrats is more conservative, so I'll do that unless it's clear we want to go the other way.

I don't have an enormous issue with everyone having the ability to do it though I'd probably lean towards sysops/crats being able to add/remove to anyone. This is less a question of trust and more just forgetfulness. The "oops, I've been on flooder/bot for months now" accident is a lot more common on private wikis and is even more likely for users who are less comfortable/understanding of the interface and consequences.

but, as said, not a huge preference.

Change 185663 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mattflaschen):
Add Flooders group on Officewiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/185663

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Change 185663 merged by jenkins-bot:
Add Flooders group on Officewiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/185663

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Liuxinyu970226 unsubscribed.Feb 6 2015, 2:43 AM

• Mattflaschen-WMF mentioned this in rOMWC9a869948c0fb: Add Flooders group on Officewiki.Mar 3 2015, 9:01 PM

In T86237#978402, @Jalexander wrote:

In T86237#978379, @Mattflaschen wrote:

I don't know. Only modifiable by bureaucrats is more conservative, so I'll do that unless it's clear we want to go the other way.

I don't have an enormous issue with everyone having the ability to do it though I'd probably lean towards sysops/crats being able to add/remove to anyone. This is less a question of trust and more just forgetfulness. The "oops, I've been on flooder/bot for months now" accident is a lot more common on private wikis and is even more likely for users who are less comfortable/understanding of the interface and consequences.

but, as said, not a huge preference.

Are there any strong objections to modifying this to allow sysops to add to this group as well? As a sysop on the wiki - it can be a bit of a hassle to ping a crat to do mass maintenance tasks.

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+1, add sysops to those who can add/remove, please. :-)

Change 264930 had a related patch set uploaded (by Varnent):
Add ability for sysops to self-set and self-remove flood group right.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/264930