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this is to continue the open RT ticket #5340 - register .wiki gTLD domains

it's a long ticket and all about the .wiki TLD. we once got it from Raymond King of ICANN wiki and .wiki and met at office and already had it working for one day but then ICANN took it back and we're still waiting on the outcome of that.

quote from Yana: "
"Ray has agreed to give us w.wiki. It will take a few months as the TLD is still in the period when only trademark registrants can register domains."

Tue May 06 22:08:53 2014 - Daniel Zahn -
"yesterday Ray was at the office and gave us w.wiki :)

DNS change:

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/131627/

Apache change:

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/131869/1

for now it will redirect to the www.wikipedia.org index page

later it will redirect to a landing page kaldari is working on
"

http://w.wiki

Wed Aug 27 21:35:29 2014 Daniel Zahn

"comment: unfortunately w.wiki as taken from us again shortly after we got it, by ICANN. we are meanwhile waiting on info from Ray when/if this can continue.

setting to stalled "


the issue is about 2 letter domain names. Ray can give us 1 letter and 3 letter domain names, but ICANN has special rules for the 2 letters like "de" "fr" etc. that we wanted for the language versions, because they say they can be confused with existing TLDs .de .fr etc.. afaik.. ianal

we need to ask Raymond King about the status here at some point

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We now have w.wiki, m.wiki, and a large number of two-letter language code .wiki domains:

lez.wiki
lij.wiki
lmo.wiki
map-bms.wiki
mus.wiki
mzn.wiki
nap.wiki
nds.wiki
nds-nl.wiki
new.wiki
nrm.wiki
pag.wiki
pap.wiki
pcd.wiki
pdc.wiki
pih.wiki
pms.wiki
pnb.wiki
pnt.wiki
rmy.wiki
roa-rup.wiki
roa-tara.wiki
sah.wiki
scn.wiki
stq.wiki
szl.wiki
tet.wiki
tum.wiki
st.wiki
udm.wiki
sv.wiki
vec.wiki
ta.wiki
vls.wiki
tpi.wiki
war.wiki
w.wiki
wuu.wiki
wikibooks.wiki
xal.wiki
wikidata.wiki
xmf.wiki
wikimania.wiki
zea.wiki
wikimediaincubator.wiki
zh-classical.wiki
wikimedialabs.wiki
zh-min-nan.wiki
wikiquote.wiki
zh-yue.wiki
wikispecies.wiki
m.wiki
wmf.wiki
consortium.wiki
wo.wiki
wikipedians.wiki
ab.wiki
wikimedians.wiki
af.wiki
wikivoyage.wiki
ar.wiki
metawiki.wiki
arc.wiki
mediawiki.wiki
as.wiki
az.wiki
ba.wiki
be.wiki
bg.wiki
bh.wiki
bm.wiki
br.wiki
bs.wiki
chr.wiki
cs.wiki
de.wiki
ee.wiki
es.wiki
et.wiki
ff.wiki
gn.wiki
gu.wiki
gv.wiki
hi.wiki
hr.wiki
id.wiki
ig.wiki
io.wiki
ka.wiki
km.wiki
kw.wiki
ky.wiki
lb.wiki
lg.wiki
lv.wiki
mg.wiki
mi.wiki
ml.wiki
ms.wiki
mt.wiki
nah.wiki
nn.wiki
nov.wiki
pi.wiki
pl.wiki
ps.wiki
rm.wiki
rw.wiki
sc.wiki
se.wiki
si.wiki
simple.wiki
so.wiki
ak.wiki
am.wiki
an.wiki
av.wiki
ay.wiki
bi.wiki
bn.wiki
bo.wiki
ca.wiki
ce.wiki
ch.wiki
co.wiki
cr.wiki
cu.wiki
cv.wiki
cy.wiki
da.wiki
dv.wiki
dz.wiki
el.wiki
en.wiki
eo.wiki
fa.wiki
fi.wiki
fj.wiki
fo.wiki
fr.wiki
fy.wiki
ga.wiki
gd.wiki
gl.wiki
ha.wiki
he.wiki
ho.wiki
ht.wiki
hu.wiki
hy.wiki
hz.wiki
ia.wiki
ie.wiki
ii.wiki
ik.wiki
is.wiki
it.wiki
iu.wiki
ja.wiki
jv.wiki
kg.wiki
ki.wiki
kj.wiki
kk.wiki
kl.wiki
kn.wiki
ko.wiki
kr.wiki
ks.wiki
ku.wiki
kv.wiki
la.wiki
li.wiki
ln.wiki
lo.wiki
lt.wiki
mh.wiki
mk.wiki
mn.wiki
mo.wiki
mr.wiki
my.wiki
na.wiki
ne.wiki
ng.wiki
nl.wiki
no.wiki
nv.wiki
ny.wiki
oc.wiki
om.wiki
or.wiki
os.wiki
pa.wiki
pt.wiki
qu.wiki
rn.wiki
ro.wiki
ru.wiki
sa.wiki
sd.wiki
sg.wiki
sh.wiki
sk.wiki
sl.wiki
sm.wiki
sn.wiki
sq.wiki
sr.wiki
ss.wiki
su.wiki
sw.wiki
te.wiki
tg.wiki
th.wiki
ti.wiki
tk.wiki
tl.wiki
tn.wiki
to.wiki
tr.wiki
ts.wiki
tt.wiki
tw.wiki
ty.wiki
ug.wiki
uk.wiki
ur.wiki
uz.wiki
ve.wiki
vi.wiki
vo.wiki
wa.wiki
xh.wiki
yi.wiki
yo.wiki
za.wiki
zh.wiki
zu.wiki
als.wiki
ang.wiki
arz.wiki
ast.wiki
bar.wiki
bat-smg.wiki
bcl.wiki
be-x-old.wiki
bpy.wiki
bug.wiki
bxr.wiki
cbk-zam.wiki
cdo.wiki
chm.wiki
cho.wiki
chy.wiki
crh.wiki
csb.wiki
diq.wiki
dsb.wiki
eml.wiki
fiu-vro.wiki
frp.wiki
frr.wiki
fur.wiki
glk.wiki
got.wiki
hak.wiki
haw.wiki
hsb.wiki
jbo.wiki
kab.wiki
ksh.wiki
lad.wiki
lbe.wiki

aah, yes, this is like back in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/191104/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/191109/ but it was rejected back then because i was linking them to actual wikipedia.org and we didn't have the parking template yet back then.

so now we need changes like above but linking all to "parking". see @BBlack's comments on the gerrit links above. specifically the " for now we should point them at a relatively-empty zonefile with just the appropriate top-level NS/SOA records "

Are we seriously going to hold all of these?

We can keep these parked until we plan to use them. Thanks!

@BBlack what would you prefer, just close this and leave as is, or should i add the symlinks to parking for them?

I don't really have a strong preference, so long as they're not browser-functional. The path of least resistance would be to not even park them unless someone has a reason to do so. The only exception is w.wiki, which is already configured and in-use for the URL shortener.

Ok, thanks. I'm going that path of least resistence and i call this resolved.

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I see some refs to this ticket flying around, and recheck on some old DNS commits to add language/project domains under .wiki to our DNS, which were abandoned long ago.

I really don't think it's wise for us to pursue this, at this time, for a variety of reasons (mostly the same ones as last time we re-visited this).

At the very least, we should get over the hurdle of properly supporting (with LE certs) our multitude of existing non-canonical domainnames before we start adding a giant slew of new ones.

Even then (when we get to a point where these could theoretically be added to the non-canonical set we're supporting with mass LE certs) I have doubts about the utility and wisdom of using .wiki for any particular purpose, even as a redirect. There are a lot of subtle concerns here around redirects, lending our legitimacy (to the rest of .wiki, which could be skinned to look very much like our projects), and getting this through STS preload and such...