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First discussion how to realize "Receive notifications when files you have uploaded are used somewhere"
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Open questions:

  • Should this be an opt-in feature?
  • Who should be informed?
    • Current idea: Only original author because of cleanup tasks like cropping which might lead to loads of notifications otherwise. This also fits to current behavior like: When a page you created gets linked to, the original author is notified

Possible ways of implementing it:
—> Look on Commons where this is used _> Commons notification
—> Implement the notification on all wikis —> local wiki notification

On local wiki, one could look at file changes before/after the edit (as we do for mention notifications, too)

In theory: If global notification on Commons is updated (Does this happen without anyone looking at it?), we send the message out. But can each wiki take care of their own files?

It needs to be done on ALL files, not just Commons files. So for a not-commons-file, everything happens just within the wiki. For a Commons file, everything happens on Commons and the other file

Opt-out on a per-file basis is REALLY complicated. We would have to have a list of some sort.

Bundling of messages:
WHY?would be good when somebody uploads an icon that is used on loads of places
WHAT WOULD IT MEAN: We would need to record what happened

Recording of state as needed for bundling or for opt-in/-out on a per file basis would lead to needing a list („watchlist?“). There are multiple options:

  • Watcher list on the file, lying at the same place as the file
  • Watcher list lying with the user
  • THIS SEEMS TO BE VERY DANGEROUS

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Aklapper renamed this task from First discussion of how to realize the wish to First discussion of how to realize the wish "Receive notifications when files you have uploaded are used somewhere".Oct 5 2019, 10:38 AM
Aklapper renamed this task from First discussion of how to realize the wish "Receive notifications when files you have uploaded are used somewhere" to First discussion how to realize "Receive notifications when files you have uploaded are used somewhere".May 15 2021, 4:22 PM

Opt-in or opt-out seems like a small deal, since whatever the default is, it is so easy to change it. I would prefer opt-out because that means that people might get aware of the feature (not everyone go look at the notifications settings regularly).

Only the original uploader should be informed. Otherwise, it would turn in to too much noise for people doing retouching on others images.

I agree with Ainali regarding opt-in/opt-out

The ability to opt-in or opt-out per file is crucial. Icons can be used thousands or even millions of times and will overwhelm all other uses (e.g. I created a set of icons, one of which gets used when every RfD discussion on en.wp is closed, meaning I would get on average about 10-20 notifications every day; a different icon I created is used on every categorised redirect on bh.Wikipedia among other uses).

If there is a way to opt-in to getting notifications about files you did not upload but are interested in for some reason (and there should be such a way) then it doesn't really matter too much whether such notifications are default opt-out or opt-in for people who are not the original uploader, especially if people can choose whether to receive such notifications by default or not.

thiemowmde subscribed.

5 years should have been enough for "first" discussions. 😉 Let's continue in T77154: Notification: Your file was used.