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Allow non-sysops to tell deleted from suppressed information
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Please improve the transparency in the history, and differ between deleted (for sysops visibile) and suppressed (for sysops invisible) revisions. Sysops and oversights should see in which way the revision/user-name/summary was striked out. "[deleted]" resp. "[suppressed/hidden/whatever]" at the ends of the lines in the history/diffs/logs/contributions/etc. could clarify that.
It strikes me that I've read "[deleted]" once but I cannot remember where. While I tested it on test.wikipedia.org (have a look at the given URL) I couldn't see any differences between the first (deleted) and second (suppressed) revision.

Kind regards
DerHexer

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Severity: enhancement
URL: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:DerHexer/Test&action=history

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• bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Low.Nov 21 2014, 10:47 PM
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DerHexer created this task.Aug 12 2009, 11:09 PM
aaron added a comment.Aug 12 2009, 11:30 PM

suppressed revisions have a bold show/hide link. For non-Sysops, they are both just seen as "deleted", partly out of WP:BEANS

• bzimport added a comment.Aug 13 2009, 12:04 AM

mike.lifeguard+bugs wrote:

(In reply to comment #1)

suppressed revisions have a bold show/hide link. For non-Sysops, they are both
just seen as "deleted", partly out of WP:BEANS

Would you please share the beans with myself and/or DerHexer -- by private email if needed

DerHexer added a comment.Aug 13 2009, 9:57 AM

It would be easier for non-sysops whom to ask why this or that revision was deleted/suppressed and let them restore if they were mistakenly deleted/suppressed, and for sysops/oversights to filter deleted/suppressed revisions on history, contributions' list etc. to fulfill these requests. It also might help to fix [[bugzilla:20186]] and make clear which revisions are suppressed and which ones just deleted when they are filtered/logged.

Nemo_bis added a comment.Mar 5 2013, 9:25 PM

(In reply to comment #3)

It would be easier for non-sysops whom to ask why this or that revision was
deleted/suppressed and let them restore if they were mistakenly
deleted/suppressed, and for sysops/oversights to filter deleted/suppressed
revisions on history, contributions' list etc. to fulfill these requests. It
also might help to fix [[bugzilla:20186]] and make clear which revisions are
suppressed and which ones just deleted when they are filtered/logged.

Bug 20186 was fixed, is this still needed? I'm not sure I understand what's requested.

Aklapper added a comment.Mar 20 2013, 2:25 PM

DerHexer: Could you answer comment 4, please?

DerHexer added a comment.Mar 20 2013, 7:43 PM

To distinguish between deleted and suppressed revisions. That is not fixed yet, afaics. The reasons I explained above: To enable non-sysops to see whether their edits have been deleted or suppressed.

jeremyb-phone renamed this task from Improval of transparency for deleted/suppressed revisions to Improve transparency for deleted/suppressed revisions.Dec 29 2014, 4:29 PM
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Nemo_bis renamed this task from Improve transparency for deleted/suppressed revisions to Allow non-sysops to tell deleted from suppressed information.Apr 4 2015, 1:59 PM

The reasons I explained above: To enable non-sysops to see whether their edits have been deleted or suppressed.

If this is the point, let's use it as summary. Correct now?

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