Per the RFC about the rollout (permalink):
On the English Wikipedia,
for both logged-out and logged-in users,
make unlimited content width the default setting for Vector 2022.
Revisit after further survey and usability data are available.
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| Subject | Repo | Branch | Lines +/- | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| [WIP/DNM] InitialiseSettings: Add `wmgDefaultUserOptions` override | operations/mediawiki-config | master | +8 -0 |
| Status | Subtype | Assigned | Task | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stalled | None | T332426 Vector 2022: Make unlimited width the default on enwiki | |||
| Open | Feature | None | T332505 Allow vector-2022 default width state to be set per project |
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Summarizing some concerns raised, and responses to them in the discussion:
- We should minimize surprise: one way to do this would be to keep the current width setting for anyone who has used the width toggle.
- We should minimize variance across wikis: there's already variance across language editions, thanks to local editorial control and stylistic norms. Local styles and templates (T121470) are among the reasons limited width causes more layout problems on some wikis.
- Few people have opted out: Few readers change defaults, or notice a width toggle. This change will provide clarity about what past data means.
- Data suggests limited width helps readers: Data shared so far has been mixed, and presented in sometimes contradictory ways. The breadth of pushback from readers and editors alike suggests better data is needed.
- RFCs are not an effective way to make config decisions: A widely agreed point. Revisiting this setting in a few months could be a test case for better feedback workflows.
Taking some time with the new skin and the old width settings will help gather better data, fix known issues, and separate the most-controversial aspect of the skin change from the question of its rollout. If many readers are shown a modal to choose body width, those results would also be a better source of data. T332505 will simplify updating the default.
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As the underlying task (T332505) to make this even be a configurable option has been declined, this is unable to be configured.
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See some on-wiki discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Rollback_of_Vector_2022&oldid=1146395448#Proposal_for_next_steps_following_the_closure_of_the_Vector_2022_RfC and some other possible options being proposed
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Change 904375 had a related patch set uploaded (by Samtar; author: Samtar):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] [WIP/DNM] InitialiseSettings: Add `wmgDefaultUserOptions` override
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Change 904375 abandoned by Samtar:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] [WIP/DNM] InitialiseSettings: Add `wmgDefaultUserOptions` override
Reason:
Flawed implementation — https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/mediawiki-config/+/904375/comments/af2be3ca_3660e46e
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Hey all - just wanted to note that this is stalled on the outcome of the discussion in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Rollback_of_Vector_2022#Proposal_for_next_steps_following_the_closure_of_the_Vector_2022_RfC which might change the way we want to implement the width defaults.